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Want some? I have a bunch of them. I was going to burn them this winter to keep me warm, but I can send you a few if you want.

I would love them!  I still have people in my playgroup without them as well, and would be glad to take as many as anyone would give me

I was going to say this poll wouldn't matter overall, but then I realized how much influence the people actually have on the game. I personally believe it shouldn't be banned. We've already had it around this long and frankly, banning cards brings this game down a step from being one of the most carefully structured games I've ever played to another mainstream one that never lasts. I want to be able to teach my future children this game (plenty of years to go for that), and banning is the first step in a long process that will tarnish the values this game stood for.

Plus it's just gross to ban a card, come on.

Hey Neil You r totally right, NJ should be banned because type 1 goes by too fast. Redemption should ban it.

Putting a stipulate on it won't help. Either ban it or don’t.

I would vote to kick it from the game but there are always people saying to get rid of it or making valid arguments to keep it. If you say you can use it but not like this it will just frustrate both sides of the debate.

Fun Fact: the creator of this thread was on earlier and didn't update the original post's numbers.  Is it coincidence that the thread does not match with his opinions or desired outcome and the poll not be updated?  YOU be the judge.        

Not true I was on at 11 last night and opened the boards tap for about 10 seconds but didn't do anything. I am updating the poll right now.

Knowing SoulSeeker, I think he was kidding around.

Of course he was just messing around, but i'm a Junior I still have a reputation to hold/build.

(kind of like setting up a false conspiracy theory).   

Depending on who you are, that's either redundant or an oxymoron.

Most of the kids in our new playgroup have it. What we've done is primarily get gift tins, and then take the starters out. If they decide they like the game and they want to pay the extra $5, they get 6 packs, NJ, and a tin to keep their cards. Great deal. One guy got an AoC. I'm pretty sure that's the same guy who got a Grapes from winning sealed deck (random texp), and a Mayhem out of the first TexP he bought. Ridiculous. He was a 2nd grader (now starting 3rd grade).

Because our playgroup is through the church, we:
A. Have a decently steady amount of new people joining, who will buy the stock eventually.
B. Don't want the parents to think we're ripping them off by making them buy the gift set instead of the starter.
C. It's a good deal. Most people do it anyway. We tell them how amazing NJ is and they take our word as though we were Gabe-tier.

Interestingly enough, the 2nd grader's name is Gabe. Coincidence?

An extra $5 for one of the best cards in the game?  How is that a ripoff?

I guess I'm just incredulous about your stance.  When people are hesitant about getting into the game, I explain what a great deal the gift tin is, and they're much more likely to buy.

I realize that the packs in the gift tin are worthless to us, but they also add value to the gift tins for new players.