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Re: NWA 253
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2009, 12:50:03 PM »
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A thought: in your interview you mentioned another man who was cuffed inside the airport, which has not been mentioned elsewhere in the news so far. You specifically said that he was a "middle-eastern" man. Since the primary perpetrator was African, I would guess there may be a concern about potential bias, at least until the second arrest is confirmed.
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2009, 12:51:26 PM »
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well the news also at first said it was just firecrackers...now, we know its much more than that.
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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2009, 12:55:31 PM »
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praying pol btw this is insane cnn contacted you!
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« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2009, 01:02:42 PM »
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Why is that biased? If I had seen an Irish man being taken off in cuffs, I'd say he was an Irish man. I also don't know if he was even related to the incident for sure, just that he was cuffed and escorted away after a dog hit on his bag. Could have been he picked a bad day to try bringing drugs into the country. Could be nothing. I don't think so, but I don't make statements on things I don't know.
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« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2009, 01:10:02 PM »
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Just trying to think like Al Jazeera here.  ;)

How would you have known a man was from Ireland, rather than Scotland? You would likely base your decision on visual characteristics that are ultimately inconclusive. The second man may have had physical characteristics that you viewed as "middle-eastern" but he may have been an American-born businessman from Detroit.

Like I said, the primary terrorist is African, not middle-eastern. Until the authorities confirm the second arrest, your statement may be perceived as biased.

Alternately, Al Jazeera may view the singling out of a middle-eastern patron as biased by the FBI, especially since you said they found nothing in his bag.
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« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2009, 01:10:25 PM »
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well, i think ymt meant other people may view that as bias, as, well, you're american, you know. :)
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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2009, 01:13:20 PM »
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Alternately, Al Jazeera may view the singling out of a middle-eastern patron as biased by the FBI, especially since you said they found nothing in his bag.

i thought they said they found petn, an ingrediant of semtex?
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« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2009, 01:14:27 PM »
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I was talking about the second man Pol was referring to in his interview, not what they found on the primary perpetrator.
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« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2009, 01:18:21 PM »
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ah, i see. i only know what semtex is from playing too much modern warfare 2. :)
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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2009, 03:00:07 PM »
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Like I said, the primary terrorist is African, not middle-eastern. Until the authorities confirm the second arrest, your statement may be perceived as biased.

Alternately, Al Jazeera may view the singling out of a middle-eastern patron as biased by the FBI, especially since you said they found nothing in his bag.

Especially considering another passenger (Kurt Haskell) is the only other I've heard mention another man (excluding the conspiracy theories), and he said he man was Indian.
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« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2009, 05:12:39 PM »
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Please pray for me. This is getting out of control; I've been contacted by Al Jazeera for comment and CNN is waiting to hear back from me. I'm kind of scared about the first one, and I'm not sure what it's about. I haven't been speaking out against Islam or anything like that and frankly my interviews have been very critical of the authorities involved, so idk what they want with me.

I'd either deny AJ a bite, or if you comply and they try to go after the bias angle, you can make it clear you only reported what you saw and did not draw any conclusions absent the facts, nor assume an anti-Arab stance of any kind.  The transcripts of the interviews should back you up.

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Re: NWA 253
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2009, 05:55:34 PM »
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Please pray for me. This is getting out of control; I've been contacted by Al Jazeera for comment and CNN is waiting to hear back from me. I'm kind of scared about the first one, and I'm not sure what it's about. I haven't been speaking out against Islam or anything like that and frankly my interviews have been very critical of the authorities involved, so idk what they want with me.

Al Jazeera probably wants to speak to you for the same reason that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox wanted to speak with you. They are a news organization, and you are willing to discuss a news event.

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« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2009, 06:07:50 PM »
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Al Jazeera probably wants to speak to you for the same reason that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox wanted to speak with you. They are a news organization, and you are willing to discuss a news event.

Although that is probably true, I find it best to consider all possibilities so you are not blindsided by an unrelenting media.
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« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2009, 07:31:21 PM »
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don't take al jeezra DON"T take it.
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« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2009, 08:08:17 PM »
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Al Jazeera probably wants to speak to you for the same reason that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox wanted to speak with you. They are a news organization, and you are willing to discuss a news event.

Even though he is an American on an American flight and all the other news organizations operate in America and they do not, you consider these to be equivalent?

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« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2009, 10:16:15 PM »
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Personally I would take the Al-jazeera interview too just because I would be interested in the type of questions that they would ask, But I would be sure to check up on whether some iman put out a fatwah on me just because they didnt like the content of my interview!

it miight limit where you could travel safely from here on out.
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Re: NWA 253
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2009, 02:40:44 PM »
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Al Jazeera probably wants to speak to you for the same reason that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox wanted to speak with you. They are a news organization, and you are willing to discuss a news event.

Even though he is an American on an American flight and all the other news organizations operate in America and they do not, you consider these to be equivalent?

Al Jazeera is attempting to be the Arabic-language equivalent of CNN insofar as they aspire to be a global news network. They are a news organization doing precisely what you would you would expect a news organization to do. Daniel can take the interview or not, but he doesn't have serious cause for to start worrying merely because AJ asked to interview him. Did you find it strange that CNN sought out British nationals to interview following the London bus bombings in 2005?
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« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2009, 03:54:41 PM »
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I just wonder if you give this kind of benefit of the doubt to Fox News.

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« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2009, 05:39:29 PM »
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I just wonder if you give this kind of benefit of the doubt to Fox News.

Absolutely. I believe Daniel should have absolutely no fears about going on Fox News to share his story (again) if he so desires.

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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2009, 06:23:13 PM »
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Mostly I was referring to whether you consider Fox News to be a legitimate global news organization that is trying to collect and report the news.  Most people of your political persuasion, and now even the administration, have been advancing the notion that they are not a news network after all.

If you're suggesting that the equivalency is that Fox News does not incite violence against the government and Al Jazeera is not intending to expose Daniel to having a fatwa declared against him, it's at least a consistent application of the logic.

I happen to think the two are not equivalent in either regard.

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« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2009, 06:24:01 PM »
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I just wonder if you give this kind of benefit of the doubt to Fox News.

Absolutely. I believe Daniel should have absolutely no fears about going on Fox News to share his story (again) if he so desires.

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« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2009, 08:05:21 PM »
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Please pray for me. This is getting out of control; I've been contacted by Al Jazeera for comment and CNN is waiting to hear back from me. I'm kind of scared about the first one, and I'm not sure what it's about. I haven't been speaking out against Islam or anything like that and frankly my interviews have been very critical of the authorities involved, so idk what they want with me.

I am praying for you, and Praise the Lord for delivering you and the others from the plot of the enemy!! Daniel, you have been given an awesome testimony of God's protection and grace!! What an opportunity to proclaim to the world (especially the islamic world via al jaz) about Jesus' protecting you! If they twist the interview, delete stuff, etc, that's on them. All you can do is share it with the world! Heck, if someone told you a month ago that news agencies worldwide wanted to interview you, you'd think it was crazy! So don't be afraid of testifying to God's power! Remember when you said you were leaving for Kenya about 1 month ago? Well, here are quotes from a bunch of praying Christians asking for God's blessings over you!! (I can't figure out the fancy way to quote these so I just cut and pasted these.) Look back at that thread, dude, this is an answer to many prayers!  ;D

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« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2009, 08:07:18 PM »
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« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2009, 08:55:23 PM »
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« Reply #49 on: December 31, 2009, 07:33:59 PM »
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