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I'm considering an I-POD touch. Please advise.
« on: June 01, 2012, 12:53:25 PM »
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I hardly ever talk on the phone, so I don't need a phone and I definitely cannot afford any sort of monthly plan.

But I am a bit of an internet junkie, and sometimes email as well.  I also enjoy an occasional video game.

I am considering an I-Pod touch as my Father's Day request.  Probably the 8G since I have hardly any music, and zero movies, to download.

What I want:
I want to able to access wifi internet from most locations, particularly a flea market, if I'm considering something to resell on E-Bay and would like to look it up.

I want to have a portable electronic bible program.  I've seen some of church using these and it is so convenient and portable.  I'd like to download a good bible concordance as well. (Hopefully these are not expensive).

I want to be able to take short movies or photos on demand, when I have the desire to.

I want to be able to access my email and my documents from most locations.

I want my son to be able to play games occasionally, like when we're riding on a long car trip. (if these games are not expensive).

So based on what I just mentioned, would an I-POD touch do what I want without some sort of monthly plan?  Or is there something else I should consider?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: I'm considering an I-POD touch. Please advise.
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2012, 01:12:38 PM »
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Well, a lot a games are free in some form. However, my brother is on the Ipod touch that is in our care WAY longer then he is supposed to. Watch your kid. Keep it on you at all times.  ::)
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Re: I'm considering an I-POD touch. Please advise.
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2012, 01:26:38 PM »
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I don't have an iPod touch, but I've heard from most people that they are basically iPhones without the phone part of it (I think there is even a free texting/skype app, so it can be a phone in some instances), so it seems like it would suit all of your needs perfectly. And I know for a fact that no monthly plan is required to get internet access on wifi networks.

Having the Bible on my phone is nice, but it does also increase temptation to do other things during sermons, so make sure you are prepared to face those temptations. The thing with most free Bible apps for my phone that I've seen is that you need an internet connection to access them, so if your church doesn't have wifi, then you might have to pay more for an app that you can download to your device and access offline. The Bible apps that I've seen can get a bit pricey as far as apps go (I guess the most widely read book in the world excites demand) sometimes between $10-15. But that's what I've seen for my Android phone, I'm not as well acquainted with iStuff (but I assume it's similar).

There are plenty of games of all price ranges from free to $8-10 that I've seen for Android, so again, I assume it's the same for the iPod, so I'd feel good about that.

I have no idea how the iPod does with documents, though I assume it can view and download at least .pdfs and .txt documents. I know that the iPad does, as my coworker often brought his to meetings to show these types of documents to our advisor. I assume that iPod has similar functionality.

I know Soundman2 has had an iPod touch for quite some time, so hopefully he (or someone with more on-hand experience) sees this and can confirm that. Another option is to go to your nearest Apple store, find a friendly Apple employee, ask them all your questions, try out the iPod, then later on find a used one for half price on Amazon or Ebay and send the link to your wife/kids.
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Re: I'm considering an I-POD touch. Please advise.
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2012, 01:37:51 PM »
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My sons won an 8G 4th Generation Ipod. I mention this so that you know my familiarity with them.

In general, without a monthly plan, accessing the internet will be your biggest obstacle.

The Ipod CAN pick up internet signals. However, you can only USE unsecured signals when you don't have an internet plan.  In my experience (small town America), unsecured signals are becoming more rare.

According to my teens, most versions of the Bible are free to download on Ipods.  None of my teens or my sons have any interest in commentaries, so I can't speak to that. However, most programs (of various content) that I've seen for sale range from $4 to $10.

All 4th Generation Ipods automatically come with cameras and the capability of movies and photos.

Again, it is possible to access email only if you can find an unsecured internet link (or if you know the password to a secured internet link).

I immediately downloaded 4 free games upon receiving the Ipod that my kids take turns playing.
        Short version of Angry Birds (Longer version is $1)
        Temple Run (extremely popular game right now)
        Bike Race (my boys love it)
        Camelot  (for me, though I rarely get to see the Ipod)
   There are thousands more of free games...I limited it to those 4 until they become bored with them.


Overall, I think an Ipod could be very beneficial to you.
   I know you mentioned that you will not use it for music, but that is one of its most popular features.
   You can download apps for your favorite radio stations without the need of downloading certain songs.  Eventually, you may find that handy as well.
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2012, 02:00:31 PM »
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Thanks for these fantastic responses.

IF, and it's a big if, I wanted internet access wherever I go, does anyone know the cheapest monthly rate for something like that?

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Re: I'm considering an I-POD touch. Please advise.
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2012, 02:03:18 PM »
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The iPod Touch will meet those needs fine, but like SS said, it will be tough to find public internet connections.

IF, and it's a big if, I wanted internet access wherever I go, does anyone know the cheapest monthly rate for something like that?

I'm not sure exactly how it works for iPods, but you might have to get a different iPod model (one compatible with 3G) and then the monthly plan would probably be around 20-30 dollars.

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2012, 02:25:35 PM »
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Thanks for these fantastic responses.

IF, and it's a big if, I wanted internet access wherever I go, does anyone know the cheapest monthly rate for something like that?

Most phone data plans (access to 3G and 4G Networks) are ~$30, but I suppose that also depends on the provider (I have Verizon, others might be cheaper, but I've been happy with the range of service I get from Verizon. I even get internet access from a US cell tower, meaning no extra charges, several miles into Canada, as I learned last weekend).

As Alex said though, you need to make sure the model you get is 3G enabled to get access to the networks, so that's something you would have to look into. Also, more and more restaurants and coffee shops are offering free public wifi, but you will likely not have a lot of access outdoors/at flea markets without getting 3G.

It depends a lot on how much you use the web, but I definitely find the $30 a month well worth it to be able to check my email on the go, or look up something important on the web while I am on the go. I have often been able to look up an address of someplace I need to get to via my phone in case I forgot, then use my GPS to find out how to get there. So definitely consult with your family and ask others you know who have mobile internet devices, as it is another monthly bill, but from my perspective it is worth it and you'll use it a lot more than you think (which, I guess, may be a bad thing, but that's up to you to determine).
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2012, 02:27:30 PM »
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I'd also look into trying to discover the portions of your area covered by 3G. IIRC, you on the western side of Virginia, which tends to be much more rural and mountainous, so you might have really spot 3G coverage, making it not worth getting.

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2012, 02:28:43 PM »
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Having the Bible on my phone is nice, but it does also increase temptation to do other things during sermons, so make sure you are prepared to face those temptations. The thing with most free Bible apps for my phone that I've seen is that you need an internet connection to access them, so if your church doesn't have wifi, then you might have to pay more for an app that you can download to your device and access offline. The Bible apps that I've seen can get a bit pricey as far as apps go (I guess the most widely read book in the world excites demand) sometimes between $10-15. But that's what I've seen for my Android phone, I'm not as well acquainted with iStuff (but I assume it's similar).

I have a Bible on my iPod that works without internet connection and is free. I don't have the name of it right now but it is something like: Holy Bible ... John Avery.

And yeah free games are EVERYWHERE and usually high quality. There are even some apps that let you get apps that normally cost money for free!
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2012, 02:31:09 PM »
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I'd also look into trying to discover the portions of your area covered by 3G. IIRC, you on the western side of Virginia, which tends to be much more rural and mountainous, so you might have really spot 3G coverage, making it not worth getting.

This is true as well. I live in Minneapolis, so obviously my perspective is from a more urban setting, but I'd bet you can find a provider (probably Verizon, if their commercials who are to be believed) that has pretty good coverage where you are.
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Re: I'm considering an I-POD touch. Please advise.
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2012, 03:32:54 PM »
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I think the iPod touch fits your needs very well. I went a similar route for many years for the same reason, and was happy, although the base model is a bit limiting if you plan on having several movies (usually about 1-1.5 gigs apiece).

The iPod touch isn't 3G enabled (WiFi only), so a separate device is needed to access the web on the go. Verizon's MiFi, a small device that creates a protected WiFi hotspot anywhere (or similar device) could be free with a 2 yr data plan ($20+/mo). Also gives the advantage of upgrading to a 4G or better device down the road without replacing the iPod.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2012, 04:12:29 PM »
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I think the iPod touch fits your needs very well. I went a similar route for many years for the same reason, and was happy, although the base model is a bit limiting if you plan on having several movies (usually about 1-1.5 gigs apiece).

The iPod touch isn't 3G enabled (WiFi only), so a separate device is needed to access the web on the go. Verizon's MiFi, a small device that creates a protected WiFi hotspot anywhere (or similar device) could be free with a 2 yr data plan ($20+/mo). Also gives the advantage of upgrading to a 4G or better device down the road without replacing the iPod.

Thanks so much for mentioning this device, because it was looking like only a phone plan would work for full time internet, and those are not cheap.  I can probably swing $20 a month if I have to.  I was thinking of canceling a $15 a month online game subscription anyway.  I think I will try it with regular free wifi first and then see if I need the device you mentioned.  We are in Roanoke, VA, in the Blue Ridge mountains of SW VA, so there are likely still several spots where wifi is not close by.  I'll just have to wait and see.

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2012, 06:03:46 PM »
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In general, without a monthly plan, accessing the internet will be your biggest obstacle.

The Ipod CAN pick up internet signals. However, you can only USE unsecured signals when you don't have an internet plan.  In my experience (small town America), unsecured signals are becoming more rare.
You can get secured signals if you have the password.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2012, 06:19:06 PM »
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steffer, is anyone in your family deaf?  If so, you can go through AT&T to get a drastically discounted iPhone.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2012, 06:29:19 PM »
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Aren't those from a hundred years ago already?

Get an iphone with a data plan, but get a smaller amount of minutes.

Why would you want to carry two phone-sized items? Also, you've got GPS and google with you wherever you are, which makes everything easier.


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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 10:06:39 PM »
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I would recommend getting an Amazon Kindle Fire before an iPod Touch. It is at a similar price point ($200), has many of the same apps and features, and comes with a bigger screen. It sounds like you're more in the market for a tablet than anything, and from my experiences with the Touch, the screen size does become an issue on some things. The iPad is likely outside your price range, but a cheaper tablet (like the aforementioned Kindle Fire) will probably suit your needs better.

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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2012, 10:22:45 PM »
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Wait for the Iphone 5 this fall. 'Nuff said.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2012, 01:42:31 PM »
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Sorry this isn't dead yet, but someone just suggested to me the Samsung Galaxy Player 5 instead (Android).  Seems to do the same things, but also has a better camera and 5" screen instead of 3.5 " on I-Pod Touch (especially helpful with a bible app I'd imagine).  Anyone know anything bad about the Galaxy 5?  Are the selection of apps and games about the same?

Thanks again.

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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2012, 01:53:44 PM »
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I haven't heard anything pro or con about the Galaxy Player 5, but I am a fan of the Android OS, and prefer it to iStuff, but those reasons are mostly aesthetic, as I don't have enough experience personally with iStuff to be able to compare performance issues. I do have two Android devices (a tablet and a smart phone) and I have been very happy with both.
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