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« Reply #225 on: December 02, 2009, 08:53:26 PM »
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14. Baltimore - This might be the most inconsistant team I've ever seen. They're so much better than 6-5.

I don't agree with the number, but I do agree with your final statement.

I think one of our BIGGEST problems was Haushka. He lost the game with the Vikings, and he may have lost some other games. So glad he is gone...

The thing with the Ravens is that they have yet to be seriously destroyed in a game. They always come so close to winning, usually losing in the last quarter or something.

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« Reply #226 on: December 02, 2009, 09:26:58 PM »
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14. Baltimore - This might be the most inconsistant team I've ever seen. They're so much better than 6-5.

I don't agree with the number, but I do agree with your final statement.

I think one of our BIGGEST problems was Haushka. He lost the game with the Vikings, and he may have lost some other games. So glad he is gone...
the game never should have been that close. but it was a heart wrenching moment, so glad he missed...

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« Reply #227 on: December 03, 2009, 08:03:26 AM »
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I am more scared of the Eagles offense than I ever will be of the Saints offense. When fully healthy, they have a a more mobile quarterback, a more consistant single threat from the backfield, two burner wide recievers, and a great tight end. The saints have the bets pocket passer in the game, a 3 man committee in the backfield, and then a bunch of misfits at the wide reciever spots (excepting Colston) who are good because of Brees, not vice verse.

I can't say I'd take a mobile McNabb over any kind of Drew Brees, nor Westbrook over Tomlinson (assuming you meant Westbrook), nor Celek over Gates.  And if the receivers/tight end were as good as advertised, my fantasy team would be doing a lot better this year.  I bet on the young Eagles offense and I'm paying the price.

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« Reply #228 on: December 03, 2009, 10:04:42 AM »
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I can't say I'd take a mobile McNabb over any kind of Drew Brees

I'd take a mobile McNabb over an incapacitated Drew Bress, but that's about it.
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« Reply #229 on: December 03, 2009, 10:10:37 AM »
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I'd only take McNabb on 4th and 26.
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« Reply #230 on: December 03, 2009, 02:16:49 PM »
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I'd only take McNabb on 4th and 26.
See, that's when I'd take Brett Favre. ;D
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« Reply #231 on: December 03, 2009, 02:26:59 PM »
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I'd only take McNabb on 4th and 26.
See, that's when I'd take Brett Favre. ;D

I think even Brett Favre would have taken McNabb:

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« Reply #232 on: December 03, 2009, 02:31:00 PM »
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Really? Cause I think McNabb would love to do this, and I think it's over 26 yards too.  ;)

Brett Favre Game Winning TD Pass to Greg Lewis..Vikings vs. 49ers
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« Reply #233 on: December 06, 2009, 04:56:18 PM »
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Anybody else feeling like a conspiracy theorist after the Saints narrow escape versus the 'Skins?
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« Reply #234 on: December 06, 2009, 05:07:21 PM »
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Anybody else feeling like a conspiracy theorist after the Saints narrow escape versus the 'Skins?

For sure. Either:

A. Roger Goodell wants there to be an undefeated team in his era. So he picked a team from the NFC and the AFC to go undefeated this season, so that they can meet in the Super Bowl and one of them has to take it all.

B. The Skins are just that awful.

I'm inclined to go with B.

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« Reply #235 on: December 06, 2009, 05:26:03 PM »
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I'd only take McNabb on 4th and 26.
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« Reply #236 on: December 06, 2009, 06:32:23 PM »
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I watched the ENTIRE Saints game... that receiver should get the MVP for the year. I don't care what else he does... if you strip a ball out of a defender's hand, then run it back to score and tie the game before halftime, you get the MVP.  ;D
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« Reply #237 on: December 06, 2009, 07:28:08 PM »
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Obviously I had to edit this based on what happened on SNF.  That was a very surprising outcome to say the least...

There are still 2 undefeated teams left.

Colts
Saints (barely)

My rankings
1. Colts Pending tonight) -I liked seeing some signs of life in the Russhing game and the Russing defense.  Holding Chris Johnson to JUST 100 Yards is a win in my book
2. Saints- Dropped because of the close one to Washington.  Lets see if that was just a emotional let down or whether Washington exposed some weaknesses in the Saints
3. Vikings -but they should have no problems tonight.  They had problems, and now the game vs. Cincinnati doesnt look so open and shut...
4. Cincinnati- Only adding more distance in the AFC North.  9-3 nothing to sneeze at.
5. San Diego- Doing Work out west.  Still getting it done... Although the Browns arent exactly a quality opponenet
6.Arizona -but a loss to the Vikes is nothing to get down about. All I have to say is that my foot does not taste good...it need some salt.  That was impressive
7. Philadelphia Is this Philadelphias way of Waking up in the second half of the season?  Because I am wide awake after their dismantling of Atlanta
8. Jacksonville Making steady progress and putting away a tough Houston Team today
9. Dallas - Woah!  What happened today?  Is this a bad day for the Cowboys or a good day for the Giants?
10. Green Bay/Baltimore - Pending Monday Night's game, the winner takes this spot
 

First five out:
11. Tennessee -This team is 5-1 and a loss to the colts is nothing to get down about.  
12. Packers/Baltimore Loser of MNF goes here
13. Dolphins That wildcat just wont go away...
14. Jets making gains on the Pats!
15. Steelers The Steelers get it by default due to a 6-6 record.


Bottom 5

27. Redskins Showed sparks of life against a tough Saints team
28. Detroit This is a great team masaquerading as a loser
29. Kansas City Not really much hope for this team anymore
30. Cleveland Almost there, but not quite...maybe if they had Braylon Edwards....
31. Tampa Bay ugh
32. St Louis Double ugh


Some Random Comments about this week:

Lets see if this was just a hiccup by the saints or whether they have some real issues...

The resurgance of Denver could spell trouble for my Colts, and Jacksonvilles steady progress may cause us problems as well...well, who are we kidding, Indy has NEVER been able to contain Maurice Jones Drew...

Aside from todays loss, Tennessee could easily win out thier schedule.  a 9-7 Tennessee Team should be a wild card contender

With the Pats loss, I think the AFC East is all balled up in a knot.  Miami has the better division record, but they need help...and they have the tougher schedule ahead...But champions are forged in adversity right...

I think the 49'ers are just one more season away from really dominating their divison, and contending for NFC dominance.  If Favre comes back (which he really might given the way that team is playing) The 49'ers could be up there with the Vikes and Saints...

..If favre does NOT come back, we will see the Vikes Implode...unless they draft a good QB.  Am I Crazy to think that Tim Tebow would be a bad fit for them in Minnesota?  Great arm and two serious russhing threats?  Plus you team up Harvin and Tebow again?  The question is can they trade up to that pick, or could Tebow fall that far?  I think he could easily fall that far in the draft but then again, that's just what I think...

Washington, Cleveland, and Detroit are really looking good offensively, they just need to stop giving up points.

I apologize to any Arizona fans for dismissing the Cardinals Chances...

and to any Vikings fans who feel I may have jinxed them... :o  The SNF result was not what I expected.
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Re: NFL Power Rankings and 1st quarter NFL discussion topics
« Reply #238 on: December 06, 2009, 11:51:01 PM »
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2. Vikings -Pending tonights game  but they should have no problems tonight.  Still look like the NFC Team to beat

They had problems tonight.
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« Reply #239 on: December 07, 2009, 12:00:05 AM »
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Agreed, The main problem was the line play, on both sides of the ball, which lead to Adrian not getting started, meaning that Brett had to throw to win, and Arizona forced him to make those bad throws leading to pics.
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« Reply #240 on: December 07, 2009, 12:12:51 AM »
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The more and more I watch football, the more I am convinced that games are won and lost on the line of scrimage.  The team that controls the line, dictates the direction of the game.
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« Reply #241 on: December 07, 2009, 01:07:17 AM »
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Another random thought...

Has anyone else noticed that the Vikings offense has transformed itself into a typical Favre offense?  No ability to rush, with everything coming down to whether or not Brett is feeling it on the particular day. Seriously, look at the Vikings and AP over the past five or six games and tell me that they don't look like the Packers with Ahman Green or Ryan Grant. AP had what--19 yards on 13 carries?  Take away his 11 yard run, and I'll let you do the math.

Minnesota is going to have a tough time making it to the Superbowl if they don't remember how to run the ball.

Crustpope, I really don't see how having a tough time in a trap game means more in your rankings than demolishing New England on the Monday previous. Comparing the New Orleans/New England game to the Indy/New England game, the Saints, I would definitely flip one and two. Struck on account of just seeing the NE/Miami score.  Apparently the Colts did some psychological damage to the Patriots.
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« Reply #242 on: December 07, 2009, 01:19:44 AM »
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Agreed.  I know the Vikings are right on the heels of the Saints, but home-field advantage is not going to overcome the fact that the Saints can run it like crazy, and Minnesota apparently cannot.

And Favre's age becomes a factor as the season wears on and he just can't sling it around 45 times a game for 16 games.  That's when you need the run the most.  Just ask the J-E-T-S.

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« Reply #243 on: December 07, 2009, 09:28:17 AM »
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AP had what--19 yards on 13 carries?  Take away his 11 yard run, and I'll let you do the math.

Er...uh..I can't decide if I should differentiate or use point-slope to solve.   ;)


Wow, how about that Packers-Rams Vikings-Cardinals game?!?!   :D

Or seriously, Saints?!?!  Raiders sweeping Pennsylvania like they're a disoriented Sherman?!?!  My boneheaded 49ers and their questionable play-calling?!?!  Pats falling?!?!  The AFC and NFC East?!?!
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« Reply #244 on: December 07, 2009, 10:59:54 AM »
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Wow, how about that Packers-Rams Vikings-Cardinals game?!?!   :D
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« Reply #245 on: December 07, 2009, 11:35:13 AM »
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I'd only take McNabb on 4th and 26.
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What?!?  I like both teams.  Good color for their uniforms.   ;)
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« Reply #246 on: December 07, 2009, 12:37:37 PM »
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The Vikings are down by 17, 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter... and they punt!? You just don't do that! Especially against a team that was so strong on the run that night and will be able to easily run down the clock. Those calls made me pretty mad.
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« Reply #247 on: December 07, 2009, 05:00:07 PM »
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Apparently the Colts did some psychological damage to the Patriots.

Rather, the players no longer trust their coach.

Spygate got everyone else to not trust him, but he finished the job with that call against Indy. Bill only proved that he is not the genius he has been portrayed to be. Instead, it seems that it is easier to look like a genius when you are cheating.

For the record, I can be found quoted a long time ago on these boards as saying that Bill needs to go. I think New England needs a fresh start. Right now we are the team that the rest of the country is loving see fall. That stigma is Bill's fault, Brady's arrogance aside.
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« Reply #248 on: December 07, 2009, 05:31:36 PM »
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Interesting.  You are one of very, very few Patriot fans I know that wants to get rid of Bill.  I started the decade really pulling for the Patriots against the Rams.  They were the underdog at the time and it was a huge upset.  But when they became a powerhouse I couldn't wait for them to lose and for Bill to fail.  But more recently I have begun to be impressed with some of Bill's play-calling and tactics.  Not always.  I do despise cheaters.  But I have liked how he has handled certain things, like the Brady injury.  I don't pull for them to lose quite so much anymore.  Especially when the two teams I really enjoy see losing, Cowboys and Steelers, both lost yesterday.  The 49ers losing (and losing because of stupid play-calling) took some of the enjoyment out of it though.   :D
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« Reply #249 on: December 07, 2009, 06:36:37 PM »
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Interesting.  You are one of very, very few Patriot fans I know that wants to get rid of Bill.

Are they bandwagon Pats fans? Have you been to a New England state recently? You'll have to talk to my humongous family of lifetime Pats fans.  ;)

But I have liked how he has handled certain things, like the Brady injury.  I don't pull for them to lose quite so much anymore. 

I think that may have had more to do with Matt Cassell. Everyone likes the underdog, and Cassell fit the bill. How could you not be sympathetic to a talented athlete who always had to be the backup to a bigger star?
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