Author Topic: New Set Card Previews!!!! (Read 59367 times)

Gabe · « **Reply #200 on:** May 02, 2013, 12:11:09 PM »

Don't forget about Scribe.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #201 on:** May 02, 2013, 12:30:13 PM »

I just realized something about Scattered.

If it was to truly live up to its name, shouldn't it have been a shuffle instead of an underdeck?

Gabe · « **Reply #202 on:** May 02, 2013, 12:54:01 PM »

The card started out with a generic name "Penalty of Disobedience" which we really didn't like. We considered calling it "Disband" and "Exiled to Foreigners" before we finally settled on "Scattered".

Professoralstad · « **Reply #203 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:00:00 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on May 02, 2013, 12:54:01 PM

The card started out with a generic name "Penalty of Disobedience" which we really didn't like. We considered calling it "Disband" and "Exiled to Foreigners" before we finally settled on "Scattered".

Indeed. We also tried to limit the amount of new cards that shuffled decks in-game with this set. That can be one of the most time-consuming parts of the game.

But what about Golden Cherubim you say? Well, the idea behind that card was less about increasing searches, and more about decreasing draw abilities.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #204 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:04:18 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on May 02, 2013, 12:54:01 PM

The card started out with a generic name "Penalty of Disobedience"

That sounds like a generic 2/2 evil enhancement from Unlimited / Prophets.

browarod · « **Reply #205 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:14:26 PM »

Just saw this on Facebook, new card preview:

Arrthoa · « **Reply #206 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:19:01 PM »

I predict that this Dom will be in most, if not all, Herod Defense decks. It works well with Herod Agrippa II.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #207 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:21:50 PM »

So many doms, so few card slots. At least it works around Lampstand.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #208 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:23:18 PM »

browarod · « **Reply #209 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:28:33 PM »

Solomon's Temple = the latest good fortress to support an evil theme! Maybe the other Gates will show up in decks again now, though pairing with Teal is ehhhhhh.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #210 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:30:04 PM »

We now have a lost soul that can recur those key Heroes in offenses like Isaiah and his angels. This will be in a majority of decks too, I say.

browarod · « **Reply #211 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:32:12 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on May 02, 2013, 01:30:04 PM

We now have a lost soul that can recur those key Heroes in offenses like Isaiah and his angels. This will be in a majority of decks too, I say.

My question about the new Soul: Why bother specifying from territory? Is there any other place Lost Souls can be rescued from? lol

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #212 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:33:52 PM »

Souls your opponent doesnt want to rescue seems good. Plays well with Gates of Hell too.

Solomons Temple is better that Herods Temple without the discard top X cards of deck. Helping Kings of Judah seems broken.

TimMierz · « **Reply #213 on:** May 02, 2013, 01:36:01 PM »

Quote from: browarod on May 02, 2013, 01:32:12 PM

My question about the new Soul: Why bother specifying from territory? Is there any other place Lost Souls can be rescued from? lol

It might be so that newer players don't think that if you rescue your opponent's soul, that you get to search. It's redundant but not harmful.

I'm usually not a fan of "after this is rescued" souls... I'd rather them be harder to rescue in the first place!

Drrek · « **Reply #214 on:** May 02, 2013, 02:07:19 PM »

Quote from: TimMierz on May 02, 2013, 01:36:01 PM

Quote from: browarod on May 02, 2013, 01:32:12 PM
My question about the new Soul: Why bother specifying from territory? Is there any other place Lost Souls can be rescued from? lol

It might be so that newer players don't think that if you rescue your opponent's soul, that you get to search. It's redundant but not harmful.

I would think its likely to avoid confusion for a new player that if your soul gets exchanged/sent over to opponent's territory, you don't get to search if you (or another opponent in multiplayer) rescues it from his territory then, that they would think they get to search.

drb1200 · « **Reply #215 on:** May 02, 2013, 02:35:19 PM »

The more I see it, the better I like the redesign.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #216 on:** May 02, 2013, 02:36:24 PM »

Quote from: TimMierz on May 02, 2013, 01:36:01 PM

Quote from: browarod on May 02, 2013, 01:32:12 PM
My question about the new Soul: Why bother specifying from territory? Is there any other place Lost Souls can be rescued from? lol

It might be so that newer players don't think that if you rescue your opponent's soul, that you get to search. It's redundant but not harmful.

I'm usually not a fan of "after this is rescued" souls... I'd rather them be harder to rescue in the first place!

One of the goals of the design of the starters was to limit the types of abilities included. We also tried to develop ways to inhibit soul unavailability. So we didn't want to make the souls harder to rescue, but we did want to create souls that help to offset the disadvantage of handing over an LS.

777Godspeed · « **Reply #217 on:** May 02, 2013, 02:37:43 PM »

I like the Lost Soul. It gets rescued from my territory and I get to grab a hero out of my discard pile. Nice...very nice...

Godspeed,
Mike

Iamalittleking · « **Reply #218 on:** May 02, 2013, 02:50:18 PM »

wow that soul is Amazing. Can some one say Uriah New BFF

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #219 on:** May 02, 2013, 03:18:48 PM »

between the new Solomon temple, gates of Jerusalem, scattered, and gib trick, king amon is going to be a boss

Gabe · « **Reply #220 on:** May 02, 2013, 03:38:34 PM »

Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on May 02, 2013, 03:18:48 PM

between the new Solomon temple, gates of Jerusalem, scattered, and gib trick, king amon is going to be a boss

I'd like to see someone figure out how to abuse Philosophy with him and Solomon's Temple. We tried and didn't find the combo to be broken but maybe one of you can prove us wrong.

Drrek · « **Reply #221 on:** May 02, 2013, 03:42:09 PM »

Since there was already a nickname for the other soul, do the playtesters have one for this one too?

All three cards look good to me, the lost soul is very useful, but not too powerful. I don't see Strife being used too much in type I (except for HAII and turtles), but definitely would have its uses in type II. Solomon's temple is interesting, but how much its used will depend greatly on what cards are in that new tin.

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #222 on:** May 02, 2013, 03:43:41 PM »

you dont even need to abuse philosophy (although i can think of an old combo that could be adapted to the purpose), you just need a few teal enhancements to get him past grapes and AotL, then his inish and CBN ehnancements/ability should do the rest

Mageduckey · « **Reply #223 on:** May 02, 2013, 04:20:21 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on May 02, 2013, 03:38:34 PM

Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on May 02, 2013, 03:18:48 PM
between the new Solomon temple, gates of Jerusalem, scattered, and gib trick, king amon is going to be a boss

I'd like to see someone figure out how to abuse Philosophy with him and Solomon's Temple. We tried and didn't find the combo to be broken but maybe one of you can prove us wrong.

Entirely broken, no. But definitely very workable, especially since the Temple covers both your offense and your defense without discarding from the top of deck. I can't wait to work it over in T2

Quote from: browarod on May 02, 2013, 01:28:33 PM

Solomon's Temple = the latest good fortress to support an evil theme! Maybe the other Gates will show up in decks again now, though pairing with Teal is ehhhhhh.

If Teal is protected from discard and capture and has stuff like Zeal and Trumpet&Sword combined with Ezekiel's recursion and Amariah's CBI (not quite as good as Joshua's CBN, but still good)...I see Teal getting a huge boost from this, personally.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #224 on:** May 02, 2013, 06:24:11 PM »

Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on May 02, 2013, 03:43:41 PM

you dont even need to abuse philosophy (although i can think of an old combo that could be adapted to the purpose), you just need a few teal enhancements to get him past grapes and AotL, then his inish and CBN ehnancements/ability should do the rest

Quote from: Mageduckey on May 02, 2013, 04:20:21 PM

Quote from: Gabe on May 02, 2013, 03:38:34 PM
Quote from: sepjazzwarrior on May 02, 2013, 03:18:48 PM
between the new Solomon temple, gates of Jerusalem, scattered, and gib trick, king amon is going to be a boss

I'd like to see someone figure out how to abuse Philosophy with him and Solomon's Temple. We tried and didn't find the combo to be broken but maybe one of you can prove us wrong.

Entirely broken, no. But definitely very workable, especially since the Temple covers both your offense and your defense without discarding from the top of deck. I can't wait to work it over in T2

I think the biggest reason not to worry too much is a couple of starter deck cards that will be rather earth-shattering to most T2 strategies (on the same level as Nazareth I would say). I am excited to see what people will use as ways around them.

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