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First, I love the new translation.  I think it has been needed for a long time, especially for newer players.  Young kids just don't understand KJV in my experience, and many (archetype of those I encounter, not stereotype of all, mind you ) non-Christians think the KJV is ridiculous and use the older language to make fun of Christianity on the whole as an "old and outdated" religion.  Having a newer translation can only be good for the game, in my opinion.

Second, I really like Vain Philosophy.  It is very powerful, powerful enough to put it in line with other dominants in some peoples' eyes, and having different dominants in every deck is a good thing.  It is not too powerful, such that everyone will use it and abuse it.  My only concern is the power it has added to cards like U+T.  At least most other look-at-hand abilities have a cost (like choosing who you will rescue with for spying heroes), but U+T doesn't have any cost if you have a priest it can use out.  It is also nearly impossible to kill at this point.  So it bothers me a little that this increases the power of such a powerful card, but overall and with everything considered, I like it a lot.

The Fool LS is...interesting.  It adds to strategy, which I like, and the combos that would discard whole offenses are minimal...I'd like to play with it awhile to get more of an idea about how it affects the game (if it does at all).  Likely going to be a T1-only LS, because Rescuer's Choice removes a lot of the defensive strategy there.

While I agree on the 1st point that it is better in T1, it is still awesome for T2.  From my experience most T2 players are not going to carry more than 2 unique characters due to the potential clog in your hand, so being able to have 2 of that lost soul basically kills Samuel, Isaiah, Red Banding offenses in just two turns.

The problem is that you will almost never have only those LS out, and whenever you have other options, they will have choices.  Combine this with the restricted-rescue souls, and you might force the rescue every now and then, but you also need to remember that they can choose who they rescue with based on going after that soul.  Most T2 have their 'stars', but have very capable back-up heroes.  To rescue a soul, these back-ups can be thrown into discard without a problem.  Also, you lose the ability to stop banding in T2, because they choose to go for this soul before rescuing, meaning that they can go after a different soul and band, or go after this soul and not band for that rescue.

Next, remember that you still have to play an EE...many small characters (Benjamin/Joe/etc.) will just win the battle before you have the chance to play.  Now they live.

Finally, the soul is not CBN.  I can negate it in many of the high-powered T2 decks and not worry about it at all.

Soul might be better in t2 because of more weapon play

I can see that point as a counter to not being able to play anything before the offense wins, but in T2, that still doesn't overcome the enormous impact of Rescuer's Choice on being able to choose when you will trigger this soul and who will be discarded, or just avoiding it completely by going after other souls, nor does it counter the fact that most high-powered T2 offenses have negation of LS built in.  For example, Isaiah was mentioned earlier...he negates LS with his call, which he'd better have on him in T2.

I really don't see this soul as having any real impact on T2, for those reasons.  Included?  Possibly.  But it won't change the game with any real impact.

I did forget about the opponent choosing the Lost Soul in T2, but still with the exception of the character that negate Lost Souls, you have N.T. only, Female Only, and now this one, and possibly Anti-Burial which they can not or will not try to go after first.  So I think it will make people more mindful of what Lost Souls they have to go after and when.  I'm not saying it will be a significant game changer, but I think that if you really aren't a true T2 player, and think several turns ahead, this Lost Soul will haunt you.

Will we see CoF more frequently to mitigate the threat of Fool+Thorns and no SoG/NJ in hand?

Quote from: Ironica on April 26, 2013, 07:50:17 PM

Please refresh my memroy on this if I have it wrong.

Wouldn't Nazareth basically stop Golden Cherubim?  So that would mean a site that stays out always stops this artifact.

Yes, it would. But if you use a heavy search deck, you wouldn't want to have Naz in your deck.

Your not using a heavy search deck, your drawing. Nazzy is a top card. The question is "Are you going to play "The Deck" or Nazzy. Seems like Golden Cheribum deserves a spot in The Deck.

Quote from: christiangamer25 on April 27, 2013, 05:28:55 PM

ok im sorry but im missing something here wheres the connection between fools and thorns ls

When thorns is out, you can't shuffle our underdeck the fool. Since pretty much the only other way to get rid of it is SoG/NJ or Burial, that could be pretty strong.

I was more focusing on exchanging, since that's the only consistently safe way to prevent your opponent from giving you the LS (can't let you rescue it if he never has it on his turn).  Thorns stops that, so the defender will have the choice to use Fool unless SoG/NJ are thrown.

Cool, now we are wasting the only reliable two liner counter on this soul; maybe I will play it after all.

I was about to say that there were other options for exchanging LS, but as of now Nebushasban and Prisoner Transfer are the only two 

Whereas I'm not happy on the Scripture version change,it can be seen as a challenge to younger players to compare the two Scripture versions and note the differences. Even though I'm KJV only,I'm confident the Spirit will help the younger generation gain as great a understanding of our Saviour using the other versions.  Besides you can always sit down with them and point out the differences in Scripture.
On the new set I like what I've seen so far. It seems the starter decks will be a big hit. I'm curious as to what the promos might be as well.

Loving the new stuff. But now I doubt we'll get a falling away..  Oh well. I'd rather get a new evil dom.

Early case of gout

Why is Golden Cherubim not labeled as a Tabernacle artifact? They were originally placed in The Tabernacle long before Solomon's Temple was created.

Kirk

Okay thanks Gabe.

Kirk