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Does anybody know where I can get a good but cheap airsoft gun? I've been looking at shotguns and here's a few that I have so far..

http://www.amazon.com/Ca870-Commandos-Shotgun-w-Laser/dp/B000CLC07I/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1270136432&sr=8-12

http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Everblast-Special-Airsoft-Shotgun/dp/B002GNYD8O/ref=pd_sbs_sg_3

http://www.amazon.com/Double-Eagle-Powered-Airsoft-Retractable/dp/B001DHHPM0/ref=sr_1_32?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1270136582&sr=8-32

I don't have that much cash right now. And I don't really wanna trade my cards for anything else.. I'm still kinda into it I guess haha

I just said I don't have 50 bucks.. I never said I didn't have any

I'm just sorta going for backyard fights with a bunch of friends and whatnot. I ain't gunna get my butt whooped by guys that were in the military haha

I'm in Mankato. Close enough eh?

I'm partial to the M4 myself

This is what i have

http://www.airsplat.com/Items/AR-AGM-VSR-001W.htm

I call her lurane. exept mine is black.

Have you upgraded it at all?
This is mine:
http://www.shortyusa.com/airsoft.html?http://www.shortyusa.com/cart/viewitem.html?II=868&UID=1270163599-71.109.166.4&CA=&RID=
(note: Do not buy from this site.)

I upgraded it with a systema tight bore barrel, a teflon mod and a scope.

If youre doing back yard wars, then that one is ok. I would still recommend this shotgun: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_181&products_id=4799

It shoots pretty hard, so in backyard wars it would leave big welts, but its really accurate with a .2 BB and really reliable. Its about the same price and its a lot higher quality than that MP5.

Yah, I got it in February of 09 and still have it now. In the hands of a good player, it can compete with AEGs. I know people with that MP5 and the shot gun is much higher quality.

If youre doing back yard wars, then that one is ok. I would still recommend this shotgun: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_181&products_id=4799

It shoots pretty hard, so in backyard wars it would leave big welts, but its really accurate with a .2 BB and really reliable. Its about the same price and its a lot higher quality than that MP5.

I had (past tense) one of those snipers you have with the mod but no tight bore then I had the TM VSR 10 fully upgraded and traded that for a seperate AEG then sold the AEG for a aftermath broxa AEG and then got a CO2 pistol and then traded the Aftermath for a PSP + games and I still have the pistol....anyone intrested??? 

FPS: feet per second aka how fast the bullet goes goes (it also depends on bullet size (.12 (never EVER use those with this gun the will just turn into powder) .2 (they can become chipped while being shot out thus hindering how far and how accurate it is) .25 (better than .2 but there is a better level) .28 (better than .25 but still a better level for this gun) .3 (this is sometimes refferred to as light sniper ammo (snipers use .4 - .45) the .3 shoots straight and hasn't chipped on me yet. I haven't messed with the hop up pretty much at all so you'll need to adjust it to make it aim straighter

Co2/Green gas/red gas: CO2 being the most powerful and easily buyable at walmart/Green gas being the least wear on the gun/red being a higher power than CO2 but more wear and tear than CO2 or green gas (al these are from my personal experience wear and tear wise)

full metal vs semi metal: It really depends on who you talk to but it all boils down to internals and I bought this gun vs other $75 guns because of what some people have said about the niceness of how long it last and i haven't had any issues (I will say theres a little lip on the pistol grip that i decided to break of because it cut into my palm but it affects NOTHING about the usability and playability of the gun

hop up: this is usually a flat head screw that makes the inner barrel kinda angle up or down thus adjusting the bullet pathway you'll need to adjust this to get maximum accuracy


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thus the .3s which take it to 300  to 350fps

But if youre playing at close range, a 400 FPS gun like Caleb's would not be the best choice, because it could hurt someone.

That's a good thing for me to consider.  With my aim, I'd probably need to be at close range to hit anyone

but .3 are more expensive.

That's another good thing to consider.  I'd like to not have to spend too much to maintain this as a hobby.

CO2 being the most powerful and easily buyable at walmart

That sounds like the way to go, so that's good about you gun.

theres a little lip on the pistol grip that i decided to break of because it cut into my palm but it affects NOTHING about the usability and playability of the gun

That doesn't sound like a problem really.

hope I've helped PM me about offers etc my trade thread: (ignore the last message for this trade)

This might be a problem.  I'm sure I could come up with $65 worth of cards to trade you.  But of the ones that you list yourself as needing, I think I could only find Holy Grail, Haman's Plot, and Benaniah (which of course doesn't add up to $65)