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We've got billboards all over town talking about it, and the guy promoting it is dead serious.  It will either be judgment day, or "rapture day", according to this person's calculations.

Anyway, this sure seems to go against everything the bible says about it coming as "a thief in the night" and that no one knows the day nor the hour.  I'm curious how this person and his disciples rationalize their certainty with those passages.

By Camping's understanding, the Bible was dictated by God and every word and number carries a spiritual significance. He noticed that particular numbers appeared in the Bible at the same time particular themes are discussed.
The number 5, Camping concluded, equals "atonement." Ten is "completeness." Seventeen means "heaven." Camping patiently explained how he reached his conclusion for May 21, 2011. "Christ hung on the cross April 1, 33 A.D.," he began. "Now go to April 1 of 2011 A.D., and that's 1,978 years."
Camping then multiplied 1,978 by 365.2422 days - the number of days in each solar year, not to be confused with a calendar year. Next, Camping noted that April 1 to May 21 encompasses 51 days. Add 51 to the sum of previous multiplication total, and it equals 722,500.
Camping realized that (5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) = 722,500.
Or put into words: (Atonement x Completeness x Heaven), squared.
"Five times 10 times 17 is telling you a story," Camping said. "It's the story from the time Christ made payment for your sins until you're completely saved.
"I tell ya, I just about fell off my chair when I realized that," Camping said.

Seems legit.

I have already sold everything I own so I can spend it all before Jesus comes!

The biggest issue that he didn't consider is that Jesus was likely born 3-7 years before or after the year "0", based on astronomy. So he wouldn't have been on the cross on April 1, 33AD...

But yes, you are correct that no one knows for certain the day or time. People were convinced that the world would end when the new millenium began, too, but that failed to happen.

We should live our lives with a purpose, realizing that Christ's return may be any day while still planning for our futures since that day may not be one within our lifetime.

wait...wha?   you mean I sold all my junk for nothing and now I have to figure out how to survive after may 21st without all my "stuff"?  How will I survive?

Perhaps, as a poor, destitute person, you should turn to the church for help.  *snickersnicker*

Quote from: crustpope on May 10, 2011, 03:56:28 PM

wait...wha?   you mean I sold all my junk for nothing and now I have to figure out how to survive after may 21st without all my "stuff"?  How will I survive?

Perhaps, as a poor, destitute person, you should turn to the church for help.  *snickersnicker*

Better that than the government...

/intentionally provocotive response


Anyway, if Jesus comes on May 21, I hope he doesn't mind sticking around an extra week or two. At least until I can get my Goliath (P).
As to the numerology argument (ugh...I love numbers, but I hate that word), I wonder why atonement x completeness x heaven was squared. What's the biblical significance of the square function?

I agree with the Professor that the "square" is not relevant, especially since one of the components within the square is "completeness." Why would you have to multiply it again if it was already complete?

What are the references for the siginificance of 5, 10, and 17 (other than "Crazy Author")?

I multipled and added like they said and I got 722500.0716. Therefore, May 21st will be just slightly too late. Look for the end of the world as we know it just before midnight on May 20th.

Lets for a moment assume Jesus didn't say "No one knows the day or the hour" and lets look at his numbers:

I have never heard of 5, 10 and 17 being anything special in the Bible, but lets say he is right and move on.

He is randomly multiplying, why not adding or using powers?  And as YMT said, where did the square come from?

Next lets look at his use of the Solar Year, after a quick read of the Wikipedia page, its not a constant 365.2422.

His use of the day Jesus died really assumes a lot, it assumes that Jesus was born in year 1, and died at 33, neither which are backed up in scripture (in fact its likely that Jesus was born a few years earlier and Jesus was about 30 when he started his ministry and he celebrated 3 recorded passovers).

His reasoning is first of all going against what Jesus himself said, secondly its using what could have been random numbers put together in a random way to produce a result that if you add this number of days (also why not hours or years for that matter) to an assumed date (with little historical or biblical backing) you get May 21 2011.

This is just as arbitrary as saying that it will happen August 14 2167.

I hope not, I have a film to make on the 27th!

But no, I don't. Lies, lies, lies! Just another sign we're in the end.

It doesn't matter whether it happens om the 21st or Dec 21 2012 as the aztecs thought. The real question should be:ARE YOU READY?

It doesn't matter whether it happens om the 21st or Dec 21 2012 as the aztecs thought. The real question should be:ARE YOU READY?

This theory seems about as sound to me as the Mayan calendar argument. "The calendar ends of December 21 2012 that must be when the world ends!" Yeah. Could be. Or maybe they just took a break from making a calendar that was all ready hundreds of years in to the future and didn't get back to work before they got wiped out. By the way for being so great at predicting events they really dropped the ball on that one huh?

With this guy it seems to be a little different because he has "math" to back up his story but as many many people have said on here already considering we can't even be sure Christ was born in 1 A.D. it's pretty hard to say how many years it's been since he was crucified. The modern calendar system wasn't made until many years after the crucifixion and considering at the time of his death very few people (on a global scale) had heard of him, and even fewer believed he was the Son of God I find it hard to believe anyone kept such close track of his birth and death for a few hundred years and then based a calendar off those dates. It was probably an estimation. "Hey how long ago was Christ Crucified?" "I don't know, hundred years or so?" "okay it's 100 A.D. mark it down spread the word

That's a fine first paragraph if the Aztecs had made the calender. But it turns out it was the Mayans.

*selfcensored* ill change that. I stopped following that whole thing a long time ago, its the same info i just messed up the names