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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2012, 05:49:51 PM »
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Benchmark results are in...iPhone 5's A6 dual-core processor puts it ahead of the Samsung Galaxy S3 quad-core, and all Android-based devices for that matter. Come at me bro.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1038647

Orly?

Orly. That is clearly an S3 running Android 4.1, which isn't available for the S3. Nice try, dude. -_-

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/09/android-4-1-jelly-bean-ota-update-leaked-for-t-mobiles-samsung-galaxy-s3-sgh-t999/

Orly?

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2012, 05:56:10 PM »
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I'm really starting to wonder if you even read the link you provided. Some of the keywords and phrases that jumped out to me were:

'leak'

'It’s hard to say if this is the final build that will be released officially, or if this build is unfinished...'

'As always we caution you to proceed with care and make sure you know what you’re doing, lest you end up with a bricked handset and money down the drain.'

Lulz. ::)
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2012, 06:05:03 PM »
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'leak'
This means people have it installed on their phones early.

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'It’s hard to say if this is the final build that will be released officially, or if this build is unfinished...'
Simply means it is not officially released, and the version of 4.1 people have access to may not be finished.

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'As always we caution you to proceed with care and make sure you know what you’re doing, lest you end up with a bricked handset and money down the drain.'
Simply a good precaution whenever dealing with early software leaks.

Does the fact that it released early mean it isn't 4.1?


However, i'll play your game:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1043068

pre-4.1, and still a higher score. Come at me bro.

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2012, 06:28:59 PM »
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This means people have it installed on their phones early.
'It' being an unofficial OS? Oh, ok.

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Simply means it is not officially released, and the version of 4.1 people have access to may not be finished.
I'm sorry, but 'unofficial' and 'unfinished' certainly does not make a complete and official Android 4.1 Jellybean.

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Simply a good precaution whenever dealing with early software leaks.
A precaution that warns against an action that can be severely detrimental towards the mobile device. Yes, I TOTALLY want to install unofficial OS's to my mobile device. ::)

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Does the fact that it released early mean it isn't 4.1?
There is no 'it' because it is not an official release. You're dealing with unknown variables and risk.

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However, i'll play your game:

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1043068

pre-4.1, and still a higher score. Come at me bro.
Geekbench individual scores are averaged to produce an actual device score. It's common knowledge the current Samsung Galaxy S III has a benchmark of 1560. Let's not try to delude ourselves with isolated incidents. ::)
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2012, 06:34:31 PM »
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Geekbench individual scores are averaged to produce an actual device score. It's common knowledge the current Samsung Galaxy S III has a benchmark of 1560. Let's not try to delude ourselves with isolated incidents. ::)

Okay, lets compare ALL the results at once.  :)

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/chart?q=model%3A%22Samsung+Galaxy+S+III%22+platform%3A%22Android%22+architecture%3AARM+bits%3A32+

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/chart?q=model%3A%22iPhone5%2C2%22+platform%3A%22iOS%22+architecture%3AARM+bits%3A32+

Man, that's a huge pool of data for the iPhone 5 so far.  ;)

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2012, 06:52:08 PM »
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Not exactly sure what you're trying to demonstrate here? ???
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2012, 06:53:14 PM »
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There's a considerable number of test results for the S3 that are better than the iPhone 5 score.

Also, there are not enough iPhone 5 tests to determine a true average yet. We'll see once more results come in.

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2012, 06:56:24 PM »
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I hope you -do- realize the S3 chart is also factoring in all the devices that are purportedly using Android 4.1, right? -_-
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2012, 06:59:59 PM »
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I know, but the top two scores for each column are using 4.0.4

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1040035
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1037491

So, it's possible to hit a score that high without 4.1.

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2012, 07:07:45 PM »
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And as I have already said before, it is a strictly isolated incident and certainly nowhere near indicative of the norm.
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2012, 08:37:57 AM »
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2012, 01:16:13 PM »
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Let's use some common sense here guys, the processor in the iPhone and Galaxy SIII are both ARMv7 processors rather Apple wants to admit that or not. The Samsung version is clocked higher than the iphone version and has 2 more cores. In what ways could the iPhone model beat a processor with the same architecture that had a higher clock speed and more cores?

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2012, 11:55:05 PM »
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Because clock speed ultimately doesn't matter, but rather the combination of clock frequency and instructions executed per clock cycle that define single threaded performance. If the chip is more efficient at processing instructions, it adds performance irrespective of clock speed.
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2012, 10:27:39 AM »
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Same architecture = same calculations per cycle.

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2012, 11:08:00 AM »
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2012, 12:00:13 PM »
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Same architecture = same calculations per cycle.

Clearly not the same architecture, custom core.
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2012, 12:18:51 PM »
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Same architecture = same calculations per cycle.

Clearly not the same architecture, custom core.

It's an ARMv7 processor. Apple can call it whatever they want, it doesn't change the fact it's an ARMv7. Same architecture. Clearly the same architecture.

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2012, 12:28:25 PM »
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Apple along with the plethora of experts that have identified it as being a custom core. You're just deluding yourself at this point.
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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2012, 12:43:19 PM »
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Yes I am the one deluding myself for realizing that an ARMv7 architecture is an ARMv7 architecture, not to mention by taking all of those Galaxy results that are higher than the iphone 5's and actually acknowledging them instead of taking only the lowest score to compare to the iPhone 5's processor.

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Re: iPhone 5
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2012, 01:08:21 PM »
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There is no denying both devices use Armv7's. What you are failing to realize and accept is one obviously uses a custom core. Apple knows it (and who wouldn't, they created it), experts know it. There is no use engaging in further conversation with someone that refuses to accept the facts (hmm, they both use Armv7 processors, but one can process instructions better than the other, gee I wonder why? ::)).

not to mention by taking all of those Galaxy results that are higher than the iphone 5's and actually acknowledging them instead of taking only the lowest score to compare to the iPhone 5's processor.

Lolwut? I'm sorry, but who in this thread has deliberately taken the 'lowest scores' of the S3 and compared them against the iPhone 5? The only comparisons that have been made thus far are against the average benchmark of the S3 with the current OS. If you want to go off on another irrelevant tangent, sure, we can possibly acknowledge that the S3 with Jellybean may have higher benchmarks than the iPhone 5. But frankly little if any credit can be given to OS's that aren't even official and commercially available to everyone that can also brick your device.



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