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Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #150 on:** August 26, 2009, 09:58:40 PM »

I'm confused what we're arguing about. I'm saying that, if I alone got to pick who won the Cy Young, I'd pick Lincecum. However, beings I alone do not get to make that decision, I'm saying that other pitchers will also have a shot at getting the Cy Young because Lincecum has a lower W-L percentage than he should because he plays on a poor offensive team.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #151 on:** August 26, 2009, 10:02:50 PM »

Yes, but 12-4 compared to who else's better record? J. Johnson is 13-3 but his other numbers don't compare, Haren is 12-8 because the dbacks suck. Cain is pretty close outside of WHIP and K's to lincecum, he is also 12-4. And Carpenter is 14-3 and I think will give Lincecum a run for his money. How do they figure in Cliff Lee's changing of leagues into their decision for Cy Young? Do they just ignore the fact that 75% of his stats are from his time in the AL?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #152 on:** August 26, 2009, 10:07:49 PM »

Yeah, I was mainly referring to Carpenter.

Cliff Lee almost has no chance of getting the Cy Young in my opinion. They don't just ignore the fact he switched leagues, I believe everyone is only supposed to look at his numbers from the National Leauge. He doesn't have enough starts there to be considered.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #153 on:** August 26, 2009, 11:11:24 PM »

Ok, well that is what I would think. And his numbers were only good in the AL, they were nothing like they are now which is partial proof of how much better the AL is than the NL.

And yes I am pulling for Carpenter for Cy Young. If they were to be picked now i think Lincecum would win but there is plenty of season left for Carpenter to turn it on!

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #154 on:** August 27, 2009, 10:41:11 PM »

More bad news regarding Peavy.

They decided to give him 1 more start is AAA, Saturday, and then he will likely come up to the majors. If that is the scenario, he would make his start against the Twins

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Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #155 on:** August 28, 2009, 09:00:51 PM »

News update: The Twins are now the best basketball team! They obtained a 7 foot tall relief pitcher from the Diamondbacks, and they have a 7 foot 2 inch guy named Luke Von something in double A. So if they lose at baseball, they'll meet on the court.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #156 on:** September 03, 2009, 04:23:08 PM »

Why does every player that is traded to the NL play 2000% better? I say because they AL is dominant over the NL. Any comments?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #157 on:** September 03, 2009, 04:37:05 PM »

The DH.

Pitchers do better because they get a free out, unless the opposing pitcher is Zambrano.
Hitters do better because there is a different strategy when switching out pitchers in the NL due to the lack of a DH.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #158 on:** September 03, 2009, 08:28:10 PM »

Owings for the Reds has proven to be a decent hitter from the pitcher position.

STAMP · « **Reply #159 on:** September 03, 2009, 11:07:43 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on September 03, 2009, 08:28:10 PM

Owings for the Reds has proven to be a decent hitter from the pitcher position.

I love it when a pitcher wins a game, like 2-1, where they knock in both of their team's runs.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #160 on:** September 03, 2009, 11:08:36 PM »

Yeah, that was a sweet game, I was giddy when that happened. Wasn't it 4-3 against the braves though? and he only knocked in himself with a homer?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #161 on:** September 04, 2009, 04:50:33 AM »

I think STAMP was speaking in the general hypothetical sense. There have been other pitchers who have knocked in runs to help win their own starts. I think that's what he "loves."

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #162 on:** September 04, 2009, 09:17:59 AM »

Randy Wolf for the Dodgers hit a 2 RBI double and pitched great to win 2-1. I still would say a lot of it has to do with league skill as far as people getting better when they are moved to the NL. I mean it is a night and day difference. Penny, Smoltz, Cliff Lee, Holliday, and I bet Giambi starts smoking the ball! I guarantee if you put A-Rod in the NL then his stats would be better than Pujols.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #163 on:** September 04, 2009, 03:09:53 PM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on September 04, 2009, 09:17:59 AM

I guarantee if you put A-Rod in the NL then his stats would be better than Pujols.

No. Just no. After looking at some past trades/stats, I realized hitters tend to have a negative change in stats when changing to the NL. Now that I think of this, it kinda makes sense beings the NL is more small ball and the AL is more long ball.

I think the AL is better than the NL, but it would be very close if the AL got rid of the DH.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #164 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:54:31 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on September 04, 2009, 03:09:53 PM

Now that I think of this, it kinda makes sense beings the NL is more small ball and the AL is more long ball.

That has always been the case since the DH started.

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on September 04, 2009, 03:09:53 PM

I think the AL is better than the NL, but it would be very close if the AL got rid of the DH.

The best way to measure this with your statistics infatuation would be to track the record of interleague play in NL ballparks.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #165 on:** September 04, 2009, 09:39:29 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on September 04, 2009, 07:54:31 PM

The best way to measure this with your statistics infatuation would be to track the record of interleague play in NL ballparks.

I would, but the amount of games isn't really large enough to have an accurate comparison of the leauges. You also have to realize that every team except 1 or 2 has a weaker road record than a home record, so even if you have enough game results it still wouldn't be a fair comparison.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #166 on:** September 05, 2009, 12:00:33 PM »

Another thing you have to take into account is the weak teams in the league. I know both leagues have weak teams not just this year but for the last decade with no real success. In the AL you have Kansas City and Baltimore. The NL has Washinton, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and San Diego. Also up until the last couple of years Milwaukee and Colorado could be added to that list to the NL, but Tampa Bay would be the only other team in the AL you can count if you took out last year.

Also I think it was two years ago when Kansas City ended up being the worst team in the AL yet went 11-1 in interleague play. Even though I love the NL, they just can't beat the AL. The All-Star Game proves that too!

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #167 on:** September 05, 2009, 03:26:45 PM »

We can't disregard the weaker teams, as they are part of the leauge.

The NL should have really won the All-Star game. The massive error by the best defensive first baseman in the game costed them a couple runs

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STAMP · « **Reply #168 on:** September 05, 2009, 03:37:44 PM »

What's up with Cliff Lee and Josh Beckett? Don't they know it's a pennant race?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #169 on:** September 09, 2009, 09:33:59 PM »

Jeter tied the record.

Wouldn't it be great if he somehow magically goes hitless for the rest of the year.

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