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How is Remeption these days?
« on: June 07, 2011, 02:18:31 AM »
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Hello everyone! It has been a good 7 years sense I was an active Redemption player and message board user. I have seen a ton of familiar names just from the topics on the board. Lots of great memories playing Redemption. So how is the game these days. The last expansion I remember is the Angel Wars.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2011, 02:21:46 AM »
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It's changed a LOT since AW, lol. 3 or 4 major meta shifts.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2011, 02:25:07 AM »
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Wow! Like what?

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2011, 02:32:28 AM »
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People have given up on trying new strategies beings they realize they're always going to be 3 or 4 steps behind me.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2011, 09:27:01 AM »
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The short version is, Priests changed a lot of fundamental strategies for the game, and the expansions since then have changed a lot of fundamental strategies for Priests.  So there's been at least two generations of development since Angel Wars.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 10:23:16 AM »
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-almost all cards are useful now in each set. 
-there was custom heroes at nats tourney legal
-patriarchs, apostles  are readily available due to TXP packs

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 01:00:50 PM »
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The short version is, Priests changed a lot of fundamental strategies for the game, and the expansions since then have changed a lot of fundamental strategies for Priests.  So there's been at least two generations of development since Angel Wars.
The long version:

Priests began the vast change, with the introduction of themes sorted by brigades, as well as many protect abilities. It really didn't change anything too much, but it was the beginning.

Faith of our Fathers made you play a theme deck if you wanted to win. Zerubabel's Temple reigned supreme with protection from everything. Autoblock became popular on defense, using characters like Uzzah and Trembling Demon (with Holy of Holies) to protect lost souls from rescue before the hero could do anything. There were also strategy decks, such as the hand discard deck that won nationals. Deck discard had been tried a number of times, but failed mostly.

Rock of Ages solidified theme/strategy decks. Pre-block ignore ran rampant with The Garden Tomb, and there was nothing you could do about it.

TexP didn't change much, but Territory Class allowed you to do sneaky things to your opponent. Image of Jealousy and Destructive Sin attempted to stop TGT, but it didn't really work...

Disciples killed preblock ignore. Instead abilities came to the forefront, with Herod's Temple frustrating many players. Disciples are currently the popular meta, using speed and Thaddeus' protection.

Okay, so that was semi-long.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 03:53:11 PM »
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I'd get a few TxP and Di packs, then take a look at where you want to go with that.

Any of your current decks probably won't win a tournament.
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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 03:54:52 PM »
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I'd get a few TxP and Di packs, then take a look at where you want to go with that.

Any of your current decks probably won't win a tournament.

Maybe a local... We had someone come to one of our tournaments last year with a fight-by-the-numbers deck that hadn't been touched since before Kings, and he won type 1 2-player! It was pretty funny. :)

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2011, 03:56:21 PM »
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Well, true.  I once held a local that was won by an unmodified starter deck.

Also: Bluefrog, you may want to wait until the new set comes out.  Supposedly Red and OT are going to be good or something.
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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2011, 04:16:32 PM »
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The new set would also be easier to formulate new decks on, too, as each tin will have a nice theme set to work from (for offense and defense).
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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2011, 04:19:40 PM »
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Old school FBTN is legit. I played it last year at nationals, at least for part of the time.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2011, 06:05:09 PM »
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Thad is the enemy of the free world

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2011, 07:12:02 PM »
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Thad is the enemy of the free world
Free world?  He's redeeming people left and right!
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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2011, 07:16:23 PM »
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Que is totally awesome in today's meta because he look like Jar Jar Binks
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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2011, 08:34:03 PM »
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Que is totally awesome in today's meta because he look like Jar Jar Binks

I thought that was why he failed.
ANB is good. Change my mind.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2011, 09:47:34 PM »
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Que is totally awesome in today's meta because he look like Jar Jar Binks
How is anything related to Jar Jar "totally awesome"?
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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2011, 10:52:56 PM »
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Que is totally awesome in today's meta because he look like Jar Jar Binks
How is anything related to Jar Jar "totally awesome"?
Star Wars is hurt.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2011, 10:57:02 PM »
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Que is totally awesome in today's meta because he look like Jar Jar Binks
How is anything related to Jar Jar "totally awesome"?
Star Wars is hurt.
Yeah, well George "Franchisicide" Lucas can stop cranking out crummy movies.  Then I might reconsider.
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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2011, 02:29:06 AM »
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episode 3 was good,
anyway, i dont actually own any cards anymore, i just was missing it pretty bad the other night and wanted to get on and see how its been going. so theme decks huh?

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2011, 08:21:23 AM »
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episode 3 was good...

Episode 3 was an okay movie, but not worthy of the name of Star Wars.
ANB is good. Change my mind.

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2011, 11:43:17 AM »
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There is a district tourney coming up in dallas weekend after next, i was thinking of going to it, but if i buy some cards and run in with my old strats i would  get stomped, can you all elaborate a little more on the changes sense priests?

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2011, 11:50:50 AM »
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If you have no cards, then how are you going to have a deck together in time?  Wouldn't it take time to get a deck bought, mailed, and assembled?

To answer your question...
Set Aside Drawing and pre-block ignore are main offensive strategies.  This can be accomplished through...
     The "new" brigade: Teal   Feasts and their auto wins.
                                  White   The Garden Tomb girls with their powerful enhancements
                                  Purple   The new Disciples and their fishing boat
Clearly, these are quick summaries, but if you look in deck concepts and completed decks sections of the boards, then you will find examples of what I am talking about.

Auto block and EC recursion are typical defensive strategies:
   Auto-blocks include Uzzah & Trembling Demon (from the "new" orange brigade)
   Philistines are still dominant with Philistine Outpost; though Nazareth slows them down.
   Pharisees are gaining popularity with their drawing and play first.
   Herods have seen some success with their blocking and capturing.
  Again, check the deck concepts area to get a more in depth look at the strategies.
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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2011, 11:56:58 AM »
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i have been scouting out the local christian stores here and they all have a small amount of cards, figure i could grab a couple and just go to the tourney and through caution to the wind

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Re: How is Remeption these days?
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2011, 11:58:29 AM »
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If that is the case, then "Tins" are your best bet.  There are certain Tins that are better than others if you have a choice.
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