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this is the best card in the  game thinking of defense.

this is the best card in the  game thinking of defense.

I agree! Plus, when you have that fort out, you dont have to rip 5 bucks, just remove it from the game !

Quote from: Smokey on August 17, 2010, 03:27:57 PM

Quote from: hi123 on August 17, 2010, 03:24:57 PM

I just wanted to hear the comments on Hamans Gallows. This is a funny card to me

Have you not seen Suicidal Swine Stampeed?

Whats its SA?

You didn't get a chuckle just from reading the name of the card? What's wrong with you! 

Quote from: Smokey on August 17, 2010, 03:27:57 PM

Quote from: hi123 on August 17, 2010, 03:24:57 PM

I just wanted to hear the comments on Hamans Gallows. This is a funny card to me

Have you not seen Suicidal Swine Stampeed?

Have you seen dou? better card because of the abtly to recur the ecs.(Ashdod FTW)

Ashdod does not recur ECs or allow Philistines to play pale green, so.....

Gallows is a novelty. Give it a few months, and no one will use it seriously.

Yes, it is.

Gallows is a novelty. Give it a few months, and no one will use it seriously.

I disagree.

Being able to block with my Persians from hand even if Brown is affected by TGT isn't just a novelty. If all it did was allow you to preserve your Plots, then, yeah, serious players wouldn't use it. But the other ability is awesome. I would possibly use it in a mostly demon deck with now 3 Persian demons that could get by not only TGT but Three Nails as well.

This card will make any serious TGT player include at least one reliable way to get rid of an Evil Fortress. IMO Persians just became the premier anti-TGT defense (especially since Wash Basin neutralizes GoH). I guess we shall see, but I'd say this card will be more popular than you realize.

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 17, 2010, 04:13:16 PM

Gallows is a novelty. Give it a few months, and no one will use it seriously.

I disagree.

Being able to block with my Persians from hand even if Brown is affected by TGT isn't just a novelty. If all it did was allow you to preserve your Plots, then, yeah, serious players wouldn't use it. But the other ability is awesome. I would possibly use it in a mostly demon deck with now 3 Persian demons that could get by not only TGT but Three Nails as well.

This card will make any serious TGT player include at least one reliable way to get rid of an Evil Fortress. IMO Persians just became the premier anti-TGT defense (especially since Wash Basin neutralizes GoH). I guess we shall see, but I'd say this card will be more popular than you realize.

I think your severely overestimating this single card's effect on the meta (especially in t2). In T1, it will probably be even less effective due to TGT's heavy drawing. This card isn't even the best TGT counter in the set. I can't picture it doing much other making Persians a semi-viable defense in T1. I still see Gates as the premiere counter to Tomb.

This card isn't even the best TGT counter in the set.

Which counter do you think is better? Maybe Golgotha, but sites are currently easier to deal with than Fortresses.

I can't picture it doing much other making Persians a semi-viable defense in T1. I still see Gates as the premiere counter to Tomb.

While I don't know if Persians are good enough to make a defense by themselves, Persians + a few other Brown characters (Gomer, Uzzah) could make a brilliant defense. But I guess we'll see. Perhaps you'll get to play my Persian defense someday.

The new sites granting protection from various effects are loads better for TGT countering in my opinion. Golgotha is an arguable second best counter, followed by Gallows and that Crimson heretic enhancement I cannot remember the name of.

Fortress are much easier to counter than sites if only because of the number of cards than counter them. Sites have very centralized counters, while fortress have a wide variety, allowing you to possess a greater surprise factor and thus have a better chance at catching an opponent offguard.

While I don't know if Persians are good enough to make a defense by themselves, Persians + a few other Brown characters (Gomer, Uzzah) could make a brilliant defense. But I guess we'll see. Perhaps you'll get to play my Persian defense someday.

[/quote]  Persians are good for Hero-Discard. I use to use them alot, and I ended up 2nd place in a few local tournaments with hero discard, and site lock. I won because, My opponent had no heros! I think I also mixed the brown in with a little PG capture!

Quote from: hi123 on August 17, 2010, 07:35:54 PM

While I don't know if Persians are good enough to make a defense by themselves, Persians + a few other Brown characters (Gomer, Uzzah) could make a brilliant defense. But I guess we'll see. Perhaps you'll get to play my Persian defense someday.

 Persians are good for Hero-Discard. I use to use them alot, and I ended up 2nd place in a few local tournaments with hero discard, and site lock. I won because, My opponent had no heros! I think I also mixed the brown in with a little PG capture!

Just look out for CoF/Hero recursion.  There's a new purple cov in Disciples that I like, just don't remember the name.
[/quote] Whats the Covenants SA?

I don't think you understand... Golgotha is near untargetable with Caesarea Phillipi in play.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but currently Trumpet and Sword is the only one shot card that counters Caesarea Phillipi.