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Open Forum => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Master KChief on August 25, 2010, 06:08:21 PM
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me and my girlfriend are doing a WHOLE lot better since last time (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=22995.0), and i want to do that extra-special something to show her how much i appreciate her forgiveness and everything. i decided to make her homemade cookies from scratch (basic choco chip...this is my first time, dont wanna screw it up lol), personalized golf balls (she loves to golf), and flowers from floraflora.com (http://www.floraflora.com). just need a little help picking the arrangement :). i was particularly fond of these (http://www.floraflora.com/flowers-expos-dreaming-of-you/352816) and these (http://www.floraflora.com/flowers-bqc-tender-heart/333423), but there is alot of great other stuff on the website and i could be swayed any way. what do you guys think?
A) (https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.shoebuy.com%2Ffloraflora.com%2Fpi%2Fkenda%2Fkenda352816_fs.jpg&hash=7f2ac1b87dcd5d1525c8d2bae91a86eb2b0e4393)
B) (https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.shoebuy.com%2Ffloraflora.com%2Fpi%2Fbouqu%2Fbouqu333423_fs.jpg&hash=bb73111e3f07b3614f168e75c9bc101002f9fe53)
C) Something else? (please specify)
of note, she loves lilies and she is not particularly fond of pink (a little pink wouldnt hurt, but definately not en masse).
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I vote B.
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C Staight roses. And I'm glad you and her are doing better. If my idea is bad I pick B.
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definitely B
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B is better. Less "static".
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B :thumbup:
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I agree with everyone else that B is better than A. However, I'm really not sure that this whole dating by internet forum poll thing is the best way to go in general. What would you do if she found out about this forum and figured out that this is where all your romantic ideas come from? :)
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I agree with everyone else that B is better than A. However, I'm really not sure that this whole dating by internet forum poll thing is the best way to go in general. What would you do if she found out about this forum and figured out that this is where all your romantic ideas come from? :)
He would revive his other thread to try and think of a gift to make her forgive him again.
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thats why she must never find out heh heh heh... :maul:
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Do you guys know about the delete function? ;)
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oh yeah...good call bb. :)
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B fo sho
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PS- that idea I gave you, i actually did it yesterday but went a little above and beyond what I described.
I made a small box out of plywood, the heart is a random piece of wood, both were sanded into shape and stained, and for the etching and writing I used a soldering pencil to burn it in
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgallery.me.com%2Fnickjaeger%2F100057%2FDSC03552%2Fweb.jpg%3Fver%3D12827842000001&hash=d3709c859f09b9268cd5a4398cb8e9ee9d5abe9b)
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgallery.me.com%2Fnickjaeger%2F100057%2FDSC03553%2Fweb.jpg%3Fver%3D12827842930001&hash=a5d43fbd2e329c9628e65879458d5a342a17a1cd)
oh, and I haven't given it to my girlfriend yet... shhh ;)
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man, that is so epic...wish i could have actually done something that cool!
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You should have made chocolate crackle cookies.
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baby steps...baby steps. ;)
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ok, so it looks like B had an overwhelming number of votes. before i get the flowers, there was one more arrangement i thought looked really great. so the last vote...
A) (https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.shoebuy.com%2Ffloraflora.com%2Fpi%2Fbouqu%2Fbouqu333423_fs.jpg&hash=bb73111e3f07b3614f168e75c9bc101002f9fe53) or B) (https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.shoebuy.com%2Ffloraflora.com%2Fpi%2Fbouqu%2Fbouqu352817_fs.jpg&hash=c8f816e3529a599ccf432a20505bb355eceaac34)
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A
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A
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A
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If your girlfriend is like every girl I've ever dated (well, I guess that'd just be one) go with the red roses.
So I vote A.
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A
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A it is. thanks for all the help and input guys! :)
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So? waht happened?
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i'll be giving her everything this weekend. just got the golfballs from fedex a little bit ago, they look awesome! :)
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just got down making the choco chip cookies. they taste freaking AWESOME. im really surprised i was able to make them so good, being this is my first time ever!
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aka break and bake, haha.
Daniel
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It's tough to lose with cookies.
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im really surprised i was able to make them so good, being this is my first time ever!
...and he's addicted to baking. Just let it happen man...
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no, say it isnt true! real men dont cook! :-\
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no, say it isnt true! real men dont cook! :-\
Most good chefs r guys. plus cookies r just easy to make, and they are best with White Chocolate & Peppermint (separate or together)
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I actually like cooking. My grandparents are coming over for dinner next week and I'm going to make Roast Duck with Bing Cherry Sauce.
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that sounds good
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im so hungry right now, i could go for some duck.
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:amen:
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im so hungry right now, i could go for some duck.
Duck? What does it taste like? ???
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it tastes very, very good. i get it all the time i go out for mongolian bbq.
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I don't like duck, but women really like a man who can cook.
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HEY! I am Not akin to being eaten.
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I don't like duck, but women really like a man who can cook.
Then I'm in luck haha. And how did the flowers go over with her MKC?
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i thought guys were suppose to bake, but they could cook?
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need.........results......... :o
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very, very well...she absolutely LOVED all the gifts, and i have to say im about, a million times away from the doghouse now :). we're just now waiting for the pizza guy to get here, and then we're gonna watch movies all night. thanks to EVERYONE for all your help and advise, i would probably still be in the doghouse now if it wasnt for all the great suggestions. :) :) :)
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Now that you're no longer in the doghouse... I have to ask, what happened to put you in there in the first place? :P
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Now that you're no longer in the doghouse... I have to ask, what happened to put you in there in the first place? :P
i second that question :)
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i would like to third thee question.
*so we may all learn from it and not do it ourselves.
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i would like to third thee question.
*so we may all learn from it and not do it ourselves.
Fourth it.
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i would like to third thee question.
*so we may all learn from it and not do it ourselves.
Forth it.
Fith
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Commentary:
Best way to stay out of the doghouse: Courting.
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Courting is generally just resistance to the dating concept in my expiriences.
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If you ever need gift ideas, consider some of the following creative ideas. Very few of them involve much money, but they do require time, thought, and effort.
- Write a poem of sorts. Simple schemes you could follow include: ABAB CDCD EFEF GHGH, an acrostic that is free verse (I made one this summer for my girlfriend with the acrostic "APART YET TOGETHER")
- Create a flower headband. I made one this summer and it looks extremely impressive. It isn't very difficult to make either. http://stilldottie.blogspot.com/2008/10/feather-flower-headband-tutorial.html (http://stilldottie.blogspot.com/2008/10/feather-flower-headband-tutorial.html)
- Make a magnetic poetry set from scratch. I created a list of about 500 words this summer and printed them using a labelmaker and pasted them on magnetic sheets and cut them out. You can include words that she likes and your names. I gave my girlfriend a "base" expansion with most of the words while saving a few "expansions" to give her throughout the semester that contain themed words and phrases I want to surprise her with later.
- Bake banana bread, zucchini bread, cookies, etc and write a heartfelt card
If you ever need future ideas, just let me know. I come up with new ones all the time and use them. I have alot of really creative date ideas I could pass along as well.
Kirk
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Commentary:
Best way to stay out of the doghouse: Courting.
Courting is sexist.
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Courting is generally just resistance to the dating concept in my expiriences.
Exactly. Dating is divorce practice (fall in love, find fault with her, break up. Wash rinse repeat, until you get married, then the last step is called divorce and requires a lawyer)
Courting is biblical, dating isn't
Dating has come into its own in the last 100 years.
Courting is sexist.
Well, so is the Bible, by that definition.
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Courting is just a Christian thinking he is better than everyone else because he reads the Bible, has fundamental beliefs about it, and follows his legalistic thoughts in his life with the opposite sex. I'd love to see your biblical attack on dating (and please define dating while you are at it).
Oh, yeah, and the Bible is kinda sexist. Darn. Does that matter now?
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Dating is divorce practice
Divorce = Bad
Courting = Making sure that the person is right for you, through the channels of yourself, your spiritual authority, and your parents (as well as hers)
Dating = What everyone else seems to be doing.
I'm way too tired to go beyond this, I'll try to expand on this in a few days. In short, courting isn't what most think it is.
I also believe that the biggest problem with our (American) society today is that we don't know what love is.
Which leads me to this question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeEuFWLt3WU
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That Courting sounds a lot like dating to most people. You sure you aren't sinning?
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Non-conformists conform with other non-conformists, it's funny.
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Dating is divorce practice
Courting is just a Christian thinking he is better than everyone else
The argument of Dating/Courtship is often actually just a matter of semantics. I think that whatever you call it, the most important thing is to do it with the right motives, with the right person, and in the right time. For more detailed tips, check this post (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=15016.msg235324#msg235324) out.
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That's essentially the point I am going to make whenever he posts his big argument against dating. Thanks for stealing that thunder :).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeEuFWLt3WU
night at the roxbury ftw. :)
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That's essentially the point I am going to make whenever he posts his big argument against dating. Thanks for stealing that thunder :).
I think Prof Underwood's choice was a lot better, for what it's worth.
You seem like you're getting a little too argumentative. He's not attacking anyone or having a "holier than thou" approach, he's simply stating his opinion. You're just waiting to ambush his claims because you want to "win the debate." Take it easy, bro.
If I'm misreading this, sorry. You just seemed really aggressive to me with your comments. Once again, sorry if you didn't intend to come off this way at all. Just letting you know what others may think of yours posts.
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way to ruin a awesome thread.......
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You would know.
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Courting is just a Christian thinking he is better than everyone else because he reads the Bible, has fundamental beliefs about it, and follows his legalistic thoughts in his life with the opposite sex. I'd love to see your biblical attack on dating (and please define dating while you are at it).
Oh, yeah, and the Bible is kinda sexist. Darn. Does that matter now?
The Bible's not sexist, because sexism is a made-up concept from the Feminist camp. Disrespecting women shouldn't have a different word than disrespecting men; disrespect is disrespect. However, the modern definition of what's disrespectful is way out of sync with the Biblical standard.
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The Bible is sexist by the feminist definition. However, there is nothing inherently wrong with that, because they're is nothing inherently right about the feminist definition.
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You would know.
i dont ruin threads >:(
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Courting is just a Christian thinking he is better than everyone else because he reads the Bible,
has fundamental beliefs about it,
You're completely right. We shouldn't have fundamental beliefs based on the bible.
and follows his legalistic thoughts in his life with the opposite sex.
Oh, I see. The Bible is legalistic?
I'd love to see your biblical attack on dating (and please define dating while you are at it).
Dating is when you kind of think a girl is kind of pretty, start going out.........and then dump her to move on to someone prettier.
Oh, yeah, and the Bible is kinda sexist. Darn. Does that matter now?
Way to lose an argument.
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Fundamental=stretching the Bible further to suit your own agenda, synonym (kind of) with legalism
No, but his view of "dating" (the word) seems to be.
No, that's generally seen as hooking up. Dating is going steady with one girl for an extended period of time for the presumed purpose of attempting to determine if you could marry her by entering an arrangement similar to marriage yet extremely less stressful and relaxed.
The Bible is pretty sexist (and I am not saying that is bad).
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You would know.
i dont ruin threads >:(
You don't ruin threads.You just [definition of ruining a thread].
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Well, the easiest concept that would commonly be seen as sexist would probably be the fact that woman may not hold the office of elder or pastor. To the world, that is a sexist position.
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Dating is when you kind of think a girl is kind of pretty, start going out.........and then dump her to move on to someone prettier.
Fundamental=stretching the Bible further to suit your own agenda, synonym (kind of) with legalism
Both of these definitions are about equally laden with obvious bias. They are also both basically inaccurate representations of what those words mean to the majority of people who identify with them.
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Well, the easiest concept that would commonly be seen as sexist would probably be the fact that woman may not hold the office of elder or pastor. To the world, that is a sexist position.
Then it was not.Today,women have equal freedom as men.You can't compare 2000 Years ago today.
Wanna bet? Research nations outside of Europe and the USA.
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I'm talking about now though GS. And Prof, how would you deifne fundamentalism then?
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Fundamentalism refers to a belief in a strict adherence to an established set of basic principles (usually religious in nature), sometimes as a reaction to perceived doctrinal compromises with modern social and political life
Alex is both right and wrong
Fundamentalism isn't stretching the bible to suit your needs but it is taking a very legalistic view of scripture and how it should be applied to life.
And yes the Bible is sexist
"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?" (1 Cor. 14:33b-36 NIV).
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Prof, how would you deifne fundamentalism then?
Fundamentalism is "a core understanding of Faith Alone, Inerrancy of the Scriptures, and Christianity as the only way to heaven."
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Agreed, but source is missing.
@ Alex, using the word sexist is saying it's a bad thing by its nature. Sexist is not a neutral word, it is negative. Just like fat and overweight don't actually mean the same thing. Connotation cannot be separated from words unless you explicitly explain the exemptions.
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That's Christianity. Fundamentalism, in most instances, is used as a negative qualifier of Christianity. So I am not sure what you are trying to say (other than attempting to spin fundamentalism as a positive, which opposes how most Americans use it).
You are looking from it at a Christian point of view though. I am stating that, from a worldy point of view, yeah, the Bible is sexist. However, that is irrelevant to the truth of the Bible because culture is subject to Truth, but Truth is not subject to culture.
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Agreed, but source is missing.
The source was wikipedia. However, considering that on most forums, people disparage that so much, it seemed like having no source at all might actually be more respected :) Of course, I actually find wikipedia to be pretty reliable, and studies have shown it to be as accurate or more accurate than more respected sources like Encyclopedia Brittanica.
That's Christianity. Fundamentalism, in most instances, is used as a negative qualifier of Christianity. So I am not sure what you are trying to say (other than attempting to spin fundamentalism as a positive, which opposes how most Americans use it).
#1 - I'm not spinning anything. I got that definition from a secular (read: NOT biased towards fundamentalism) source.
#2 - The majority of people in America today who call themselves Christians actually would NOT agree with the 3 keys of fundamentalism, so I'm not sure what you mean when you say "That's Christianity." unless you agree that fundamentalism is correct, and that modern American Christianity is mistaken.
P.S. on topic, I also pick B
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and now back to the original topic i pick B
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and now back to the original topic i pick B
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lostrepublic.us%2FGraphics%2FDoubleFacePalm.jpg&hash=98350e45caa521707003d55541ce274108dd4b1d)
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and studies have shown it to be as accurate or more accurate than more respected sources like Encyclopedia Brittanica.
Did you read that on Wikipedia?
;)
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This is off topic,but why is just about every thread a fight?
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"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. " (1 Cor. 14:33b-35 NIV).
I don't see how having a christian viewpoint makes this any less sexist......
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This is off topic,but why is just about every thread a fight?
because people are like that.
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This is off topic,but why is just about every thread a fight?
because people are like that.
The one thing that I have noticed is that everyone thinks they know everything.
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Did you read that on Wikipedia?
Wikipedia gets a bad rap due to the fact that users have the ability to edit most postings there. However, according to arguably the most prestigious scientific journal, Nature, “Wikipedia comes close to Britannica in terms of the accuracy of its science entries” (1). In my own experience, I have also found Wikipedia to be very accurate when it comes to any subject that is not popularly controversial. And I have found Wikipedia to actually be at least as objective at reporting both sides of a popularly controversial subject as the mainstream media tends to be.
If I find something there that seems incredulous, then I would check other sources to ensure its accuracy. But in general, I think that Wikipedia is worth trusting.
1 - http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7070/full/438900a.html (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7070/full/438900a.html)
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I think it's funny that people are trying to get on topic in a thread that should be locked (MKC already gave his GF the stuff).
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naw, i grabbed some popcorn and im enjoying the show. 8)
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Dating is when you kind of think a girl is kind of pretty, start going out.........and then dump her to move on to someone prettier.
Fundamental=stretching the Bible further to suit your own agenda, synonym (kind of) with legalism
Both of these definitions are about equally laden with obvious bias. They are also both basically inaccurate representations of what those words mean to the majority of people who identify with them.
It may not be the actual definition (its not), but thats pretty much the way it works nowadays.
No, that's generally seen as hooking up. Dating is going steady with one girl for an extended period of time for the presumed purpose of attempting to determine if you could marry her by entering an arrangement similar to marriage yet extremely less stressful and relaxed.
That is known as courting.
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What you described is dating for almost every decent Christian, so you just hate a word.
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What you described is dating for almost every decent Christian, so you just hate a word.
Well, I am talking about secular dating, if you will.
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Quote from: Alex Olijar
No, that's generally seen as hooking up. Dating is going steady with one girl for an extended period of time for the presumed purpose of attempting to determine if you could marry her by entering an arrangement similar to marriage yet extremely less stressful and relaxed.
That is known as courting.
Proof that for 90% of the population are using courting and dating as different words for the same thing. Mostly its for people who see dating as just a "fun time" or status rather than a way to find a partner for life. The thing is what they are doing is the same as dating. True courting is much different. Its pretty much integrating into the family, yes there is SOME (very little comparatively to dating) alone time, but the alone time is MUCH more controlled than a normal dating environment. EG: Sitting in a room with the door open with the family only a room or maybe two over. Courting is more getting to know the family and her together rather than just her.
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You don't really seem to be talking about anything, if I may. You just get saying you hate dating, and then you describe what you want to do, which, ironically, is essentially dating with the word courting instead.
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Quote from: Alex Olijar
No, that's generally seen as hooking up. Dating is going steady with one girl for an extended period of time for the presumed purpose of attempting to determine if you could marry her by entering an arrangement similar to marriage yet extremely less stressful and relaxed.
That is known as courting.
Proof that for 90% of the population are using courting and dating as different words for the same thing. Mostly its for people who see dating as just a "fun time" or status rather than a way to find a partner for life. The thing is what they are doing is the same as dating. True courting is much different. Its pretty much integrating into the family, yes there is SOME (very little comparatively to dating) alone time, but the alone time is MUCH more controlled than a normal dating environment. EG: Sitting in a room with the door open with the family only a room or maybe two over. Courting is more getting to know the family and her together rather than just her.
courting is pretty much hanging out with a person you might marry at their house your house at school.
also very family oriented.
dating is going to see a movie and go to dinner afterwards together but really no adults.
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Proof that for 90% of the population are using courting and dating as different words for the same thing. Mostly its for people who see dating as just a "fun time" or status rather than a way to find a partner for life. The thing is what they are doing is the same as dating. True courting is much different. Its pretty much integrating into the family, yes there is SOME (very little comparatively to dating) alone time, but the alone time is MUCH more controlled than a normal dating environment. EG: Sitting in a room with the door open with the family only a room or maybe two over. Courting is more getting to know the family and her together rather than just her.
yeah, it would drive me and my girlfriend nuts if we were around her family or my family that much. im an adult. shes an adult. we dont need a family babysitting us. im in a relationship with my girlfriend, not her family. 'courting' ftl.
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Wow, I go to college for two days and this?
A brief definition for me of said two words:
Courting: intent to marry
Dating: intent to enjoy said other person.
Sure, Christians can "date" and secular people can "court", when they're just doing the other and calling it that.
This current argument is really all about semantics, and if you want to follow biblical principles and call it dating, I've got no problem with it. However, if one is to follow worldly principles in such a relationship (or any one for that matter), I would remind them that we are not of this world, and not to conform to its values.
I personally subscribe to a fairly legalistic type of courting/Christian dating, but won't be offended if you don't. As to Prof's post, that's courtship/Christian dating.
And MKC, you may want to check out the definition of "In-law"
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yes, i would have family by law if i married my girlfriend. that doesnt mean we will be around them 24/7.
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Courting is not intent to marry. That's what you want it to mean in order to attempt to claim you are not dating and instead courting. Courting is dating to get to know each other and decide if there will be an engagement. Usually courtship is a public affair, done in public and with family approval. Dating is a form of courtship, and may include any social activity undertaken by, typically, two persons with the aim of each assessing the other's suitability as a partner in an intimate relationship or as a spouse. The word refers to the act of meeting and engaging in some mutually agreed upon social activity. Traditional dating activities include entertainment or a meal.
They are pretty much the same thing.
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That's what you want it to mean in order to attempt to claim you are not dating and instead courting.
Glad to see you know exactly how I think. Now I know I can safely leave my non-existent side of this one-sided "debate" to you.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/courtship (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/courtship) -- Definitions of Courtship
to make a date with; go out on dates with -- definitions of "date"
Bottom line: It drives me crazy, as a debater, to see 4 pages of threads about definitions with everyone simply saying that they're correct without ever providing definitions. Sheesh. Look at the above definitions, neither actually say "with the end goal of marriage," you're simply arguing petty semantics.
It's about your actions, not the words you use.
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your definition of courtship returned 'wooing' as a definition. thats just wussy.
it also returned 'solicitation of favors'. that just sounds illegal.
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4 pages of threads about...petty semantics.
Which is exactly what I said back at the beginning :)
The argument of Dating/Courtship is often actually just a matter of semantics.
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Yep, which is exactly why I said that I liked your approach. ;)
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That's what you want it to mean in order to attempt to claim you are not dating and instead courting.
Glad to see you know exactly how I think. Now I know I can safely leave my non-existent side of this one-sided "debate" to you.
Well, I mean, when the dictionary terms are virtually identical, my reasoning would seem to make sense.
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It's about your actions, not the words you use.
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LN, you should probably read the implied argument.
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LN, you should probably read the implied argument.
true enough.
not only based on words or actions.
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B
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B
I forget if I allready voted or not :-[
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Election's over, he already gave the gift.
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oh
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The implied argument?
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actions, not words.
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Arguing about implied things, or implying argument?
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actions, not words.
Wait... wasn't that MY argument? I'm very confused.
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I'm arguing that he dates but uses the word courting to makehimself feel better. Implied: It's all semantics.
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Yes, but you are choosing to make an ad hominum attack, while I'm just trying to solve the argument.
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c) chocolate and B :) Next time
homemade chocolate... :D
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I'm arguing that he dates but uses the word courting to makehimself feel better SomeKittens is a big, flaming hypocrite. Implied: It's all semantics.
Hmm, didn't find you (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nice+people)
Apologies to all else for my comment that started this. If you're interested in my views, please PM me.