Author Topic: For all you lovers of SF/F (Read 4890 times)

SomeKittens · « **on:** October 17, 2011, 09:40:39 AM »

http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2011/09/flowchart-for-navigating-nprs-top-100-sff-books/

I had a great time looking through this. I've read about half the stuff on the SF side, and most of the unread I'd like to read. I'm not too much of a Fantasy person, would someone want to comment on that half?

lightningninja · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2011, 10:20:48 AM »

Thought this was about the San Francisco 49ers, and you wanted us to look at Fantasy Football players. Lolz.

katedid · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2011, 11:17:26 AM »

Several of those Fantasy authors are on my "To Read" list. Definately would recommend "The Stand" My mom was reading it and I read it too. Stephan Kings take on the battle between God and Satan basically.

Another great site that I find really comprehensive on all things scify/fantasy/horror/anime/manga/comics and movies of those genres is
http://lytherus.com/

STAMP · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2011, 11:30:45 AM »

I'm a Fantasy expert...but I didn't see too many stats in that link.

Quote from: lightningninja on October 17, 2011, 10:20:48 AM

Thought this was about the San Francisco 49ers, and you wanted us to look at Fantasy Football players. Lolz.

Ditto.

Master KChief · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2011, 06:28:48 PM »

Though this was about Street Figher, actually.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:03:26 PM »

Anyone actually interested in talking about the OP?

Bobbert · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:09:29 PM »

Thank you!! This is awesome. Now I have to go update my "to-read" list.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:17:09 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Hunter on October 17, 2011, 07:09:29 PM

Thank you!! This is awesome. Now I have to go update my "to-read" list.

Are you more of a SF or Fantasy guy?

The Warrior · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:18:29 PM »

They Are No altogether Different Except F has Magic and SF has Alien Technology Instead

Bobbert · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:20:42 PM »

Yes.

I am a die hard Star Wars nerd (to the point I'd hit the "random page" on Wookiepedia to learn new stuff) and read Lord of the Rings in third grade. Yes, you read that right. I am currently re-re-re-re-.... uh... re-re-re-reading it. (I try to read it every year.) And I can write in LOTR Elvish.

That answer your question?

The Warrior · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:24:20 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Hunter on October 17, 2011, 07:20:42 PM

Yes.

I am a die hard Star Wars nerd (to the point I'd hit the "random page" on Wookiepedia to learn new stuff) and read Lord of the Rings in third grade. Yes, you read that right. I am currently re-re-re-re-.... uh... re-re-re-reading it. (I try to read it every year.) And I can write in LOTR Elvish.

That answer your question?

I Love Star Wars and LOTR, I am currently Reading the LOTR Books as i Have seen the movies but never had the time to read the books, (the Books tell WAY more).
I Can See Aragorn with a lightsaber and Legolas With a Blaster Sniper

Bobbert · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:28:40 PM »

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:24:20 PM

I Love Star Wars and LOTR, I am currently Reading the LOTR Books as i Have seen the movies but never had the time to read the books, (the Books tell WAY more).
I Can See Aragorn with a lightsaber and Legolas With a Blaster Sniper

Lol, that would be awesome!

I thought the movies were okay. They're great movies in and of themselves, but not anywhere near as good as the books. (I was... upset when I found out they skipped Tom Bombadil).

The Warrior · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:33:14 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Hunter on October 17, 2011, 07:28:40 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:24:20 PM
I Love Star Wars and LOTR, I am currently Reading the LOTR Books as i Have seen the movies but never had the time to read the books, (the Books tell WAY more).
I Can See Aragorn with a lightsaber and Legolas With a Blaster Sniper

Lol, that would be awesome!

I thought the movies were okay. They're great movies in and of themselves, but not anywhere near as good as the books. (I was... upset when I found out they skipped Tom Bombadil).

I KNOW! i first read that part and I was like. "Wait,What..... Why wasn't this in the Movies?"

Another thing i noticed is the books actually Sing more songs than you hear in the movies.(I Particularly like Gimili's Thorin/Moria Song)

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:34:19 PM »

Tom Bombadil was the biggest omission from the books by far. I much prefer the Silmarillion to the trilogy, and The Hobbit over anything else by Tolkien (I detest Christopher Tolkien and all he stands for). The movies are some of my favorites though. Really captured the spirit of the books with what they had to work with imo.

Yeah, the books were actually rumored for a long time to merely be a framework for the songs within them.

Bobbert · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:36:29 PM »

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:33:14 PM

Quote from: Thomas Hunter on October 17, 2011, 07:28:40 PM
Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:24:20 PM
I Love Star Wars and LOTR, I am currently Reading the LOTR Books as i Have seen the movies but never had the time to read the books, (the Books tell WAY more).
I Can See Aragorn with a lightsaber and Legolas With a Blaster Sniper

Lol, that would be awesome!

I thought the movies were okay. They're great movies in and of themselves, but not anywhere near as good as the books. (I was... upset when I found out they skipped Tom Bombadil).
I KNOW! i first read that part and I was like. "Wait,What..... Why wasn't this in the Movies?"

Another thing i noticed is the books actually Sing more songs than you hear in the movies.(I Particularly like Gimili's Thorin/Moria Song)

Ikr the argument always is, "if they put all that stuff in, the movie would be too long!" The trouble is, they added a whole bunch of stuff that wasn't in the books.

Also, I think they "technically" fit it in by composing a song to go with the lyrics, deleting the lyrics, and playing the song as background music.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #15 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:49:53 PM »

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:18:29 PM

They Are No altogether Different Except F has Magic and SF has Alien Technology Instead

According to Arthur C. Clarke, any sufficently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

I'm totally into SF, and I think that there's a vast difference between the two. Fantasy is concerned with storytelling, while SF is concerned with ideas.

katedid · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:53:43 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on October 17, 2011, 07:49:53 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:18:29 PM
They Are No altogether Different Except F has Magic and SF has Alien Technology Instead
According to Arthur C. Clarke, any sufficently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

I'm totally into SF, and I think that there's a vast difference between the two. Fantasy is concerned with storytelling, while SF is concerned with ideas.

Technological ideas or societal ideas?

The Warrior · « **Reply #17 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:54:28 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Hunter on October 17, 2011, 07:36:29 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: Thomas Hunter on October 17, 2011, 07:28:40 PM
Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:24:20 PM
I Love Star Wars and LOTR, I am currently Reading the LOTR Books as i Have seen the movies but never had the time to read the books, (the Books tell WAY more).
I Can See Aragorn with a lightsaber and Legolas With a Blaster Sniper

Lol, that would be awesome!

I thought the movies were okay. They're great movies in and of themselves, but not anywhere near as good as the books. (I was... upset when I found out they skipped Tom Bombadil).
I KNOW! i first read that part and I was like. "Wait,What..... Why wasn't this in the Movies?"

Another thing i noticed is the books actually Sing more songs than you hear in the movies.(I Particularly like Gimili's Thorin/Moria Song)

Ikr the argument always is, "if they put all that stuff in, the movie would be too long!" The trouble is, they added a whole bunch of stuff that wasn't in the books.

Also, I think they "technically" fit it in by composing a song to go with the lyrics, deleting the lyrics, and playing the song as background music.

Well I would rather they take time to make an accurate movie.
Symphony is not a "Song" in my book. A "Song" requires Lyrics

SomeKittens · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:59:09 PM »

Quote from: katedid on October 17, 2011, 07:53:43 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on October 17, 2011, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:18:29 PM
They Are No altogether Different Except F has Magic and SF has Alien Technology Instead
According to Arthur C. Clarke, any sufficently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

I'm totally into SF, and I think that there's a vast difference between the two. Fantasy is concerned with storytelling, while SF is concerned with ideas.

Technological ideas or societal ideas?

Actually, societal ideas. Foundation wasn't so much a story about some old guy, it was about the inevitability of cyclic change.

The Warrior · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:59:36 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on October 17, 2011, 07:49:53 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:18:29 PM
They Are No altogether Different Except F has Magic and SF has Alien Technology Instead
According to Arthur C. Clarke, any sufficently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

I'm totally into SF, and I think that there's a vast difference between the two. Fantasy is concerned with storytelling, while SF is concerned with ideas.

They are both Ideas, Although F is More Made for Enjoyment, I Would be lying if i said i dont enjoy SF.
SF Ideas : Technological,Societal and altogether more apocalyptic (NO Aliens in F)
F Ideas: Imagination, Adventure and more rustic (How Come you never see Swords or bows in a SF?)

Bobbert · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2011, 08:04:50 PM »

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:54:28 PM

Well I would rather they take time to make an accurate movie.
Symphony is not a "Song" in my book. A "Song" requires Lyrics

Agreed. I have to stop posting on this thread before I start ranting like I did for two weeks after seeing the movies. (They ended Two Towers in the wrong place!)

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:59:36 PM

How Come you never see Swords or bows in a SF?

I don't know about swords or bows, but The Two-Space War had Civil War era muskets combined with space travel.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2011, 08:06:17 PM »

I just finished reading a SF that involved both swords and bows.

Quote from: My dad

Storytelling allows the hearers, or readers, to insert themselves into the story and imagine themselves in the adventure. They can experience emotions that they wouldn't normally experience. It's reading for emotional response. SF engages the cognitive skills, which is exciting and rewarding to a certain type of human but not to all.

The Warrior · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2011, 08:08:38 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Hunter on October 17, 2011, 08:04:50 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on October 17, 2011, 07:54:28 PM
Well I would rather they take time to make an accurate movie.
Symphony is not a "Song" in my book. A "Song" requires Lyrics
Agreed. I have to stop posting on this thread before I start ranting like I did for two weeks after seeing the movies. (They ended Two Towers in the wrong place!)

They Could have at least Narrated in the skipped Parts

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #23 on:** October 18, 2011, 11:08:29 AM »

Dune is a fantastic example of blending Sci-Fi and Fantasy.

katedid · « **Reply #24 on:** October 18, 2011, 11:29:34 AM »

The Transall Saga by Gary Paulsen definately is a SF with a lot of Fantasy elements

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