Author Topic: Feedback on the Ratings System (Read 10650 times)

lp670sv · « **Reply #50 on:** December 28, 2011, 04:34:11 PM »

And if the system were public you would then be able to call them out by name which can easily be misconstrued as personal attacks.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #51 on:** December 28, 2011, 04:39:15 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on December 28, 2011, 04:34:11 PM

And if the system were public you would then be able to call them out by name which can easily be misconstrued as personal attacks.

I disagree. I actually go to great lengths to avoid having my statements that question another member be misconstrued as personal attacks (most of the time - I'm only human

). Look at my recent exchange with YMT as an example of that. Regardless, if we haven't seen that thus far, I don't believe there's a reason to assume we will see it if this was made public. If we do, by more than a handful of predictable members, then they can by all means put the current system back in place.

lp670sv · « **Reply #52 on:** December 28, 2011, 04:40:11 PM »

But Pol (or maybe it was alex? I know it was a name i see alot) misconstrued YMT's statement. Not everyone on the board is the same, people react differently.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #53 on:** December 28, 2011, 04:43:39 PM »

I think that the argument that "all users should see it because mods can see it" doesn't make any sense. The whole idea of mods (or elders for that matter) is that certain groups of people have additional powers and additional responsibilities (thanks Uncle Ben).

However, I also think that it would be better for communication for all people to see who votes their posts up or down. I agree that it is the type of thing that would be worth trying for a bit, and see if it leads to huge personal issues or not. If not, then we keep it. If so, then we have a good reason in the future to tell people why they can't see who voted their post down

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #54 on:** December 28, 2011, 04:58:09 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on December 28, 2011, 04:43:39 PM

I think that the argument that "all users should see it because mods can see it" doesn't make any sense. The whole idea of mods (or elders for that matter) is that certain groups of people have additional powers and additional responsibilities (thanks Uncle Ben).

I agree with that statement for people like you, who are global mods and as such, have authority that extends to the entire forum. As I mentioned earlier, SomeKittens' responsibilities only extend to his specific forums, and as such, the vast majority of his powers only extend to those forums as well (unless he technically has them everywhere and is just not allowed to use them, though I doubt this is the case). I see no reason for this particular ability (again, unless there's no way to restrict that) to extend beyond his own forums.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #55 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:17:05 PM »

But when people can see what I minus, people are going to realize that I minus the same three people virtually every post because I disagree with almost every aspect of their being.

STAMP · « **Reply #56 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:19:20 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on December 28, 2011, 05:17:05 PM

...because I disagree with almost every aspect of their being.

Very dangerous statement considering "being" could be a noun or a verb. $:-\$

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #57 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:21:34 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on December 28, 2011, 05:17:05 PM

But when people can see what I minus, people are going to realize that I minus the same three people virtually every post because I disagree with almost every aspect of their being.

Look, I know you don't like me, but can't we be civil?

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #58 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:25:55 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on December 28, 2011, 05:17:05 PM

But when people can see what I minus, people are going to realize that I minus the same three people virtually every post because I disagree with almost every aspect of their being.

I can't decide between:
a - Assuming you're totally joking
b - Asking if I'm one of those 3 people
c - Responding with some sort of encouragement to try to forgive your enemies and pray for those who persecute you

SomeKittens · « **Reply #59 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:32:24 PM »

Of course I'm the mod you guys pick on. Who else?

The thing that sticks out to me is that we haven't defined "abuse." There was a recent thread where one member who disagreed -1'd all the posts on that topic that weren't agreeing with him. (I could use a gender neutral pronoun, but this is the Redemption boards.) He never gave a solid reason for the -1's. Is this abuse? Is something like what Alex says abuse?

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #60 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:43:15 PM »

I think abuse would just be if a group of people all got together and decided to -1 all the posts that someone made. Or if a group of 10 or more people got together and decided to -1 a specific post to force it to be hidden from the board (when it didn't deserve to be).

Otherwise, I don't care if a specific person -1s all my posts. I would just learn to ignore anything that didn't have at least a -2 on it. Realistically, I don't usually look at the voting on my posts to begin with.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #61 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:48:02 PM »

I'll bring this issue up on the other side of the board.

I have always wanted to say that. This post makes me much happier than it should.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #62 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:52:18 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on December 28, 2011, 05:32:24 PM

Of course I'm the mod you guys pick on. Who else?

The thing that sticks out to me is that we haven't defined "abuse." There was a recent thread where one member who disagreed -1'd all the posts on that topic that weren't agreeing with him. (I could use a gender neutral pronoun, but this is the Redemption boards.) He never gave a solid reason for the -1's. Is this abuse? Is something like what Alex says abuse?

We all know you're using "him" to protect Marti or Katie.

STAMP · « **Reply #63 on:** December 28, 2011, 05:54:30 PM »

Shoot, the only time I look at the +/- is to click the + for Pro-ANB posts (which by the way is the same as Pro-Life).

katedid · « **Reply #64 on:** December 29, 2011, 12:08:43 AM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on December 28, 2011, 05:52:18 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on December 28, 2011, 05:32:24 PM
Of course I'm the mod you guys pick on. Who else?

The thing that sticks out to me is that we haven't defined "abuse." There was a recent thread where one member who disagreed -1'd all the posts on that topic that weren't agreeing with him. (I could use a gender neutral pronoun, but this is the Redemption boards.) He never gave a solid reason for the -1's. Is this abuse? Is something like what Alex says abuse?

We all know you're using "him" to protect Marti or Katie.

Yeah you got me. Im a real redemption boards trouble maker. Hey Im the person who was sooooo troublesome that I politely Pm'd a moderator to get on the open discussion

SomeKittens · « **Reply #65 on:** December 29, 2011, 12:12:38 AM »

Well, someone needs to replace Marti now that she's headed back to school.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #66 on:** December 29, 2011, 01:41:40 PM »

...she's going to school primarily online, and isn't even all that active to begin with. Kittens, were you even around when Open Discussion was created? Ah, those were the days...

lp670sv · « **Reply #67 on:** December 29, 2011, 01:53:58 PM »

Speaking of Open Discussion.....

katedid · « **Reply #68 on:** December 29, 2011, 02:00:38 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on December 29, 2011, 01:41:40 PM

...she's going to school primarily online, and isn't even all that active to begin with. Kittens, were you even around when Open Discussion was created? Ah, those were the days...

Yeah....I have been reading some of those old posts from like 2008...

lp670sv · « **Reply #69 on:** December 29, 2011, 02:04:27 PM »

Primarily online doesn't mean she'll have anymore time that if she was going to school on Campus. My online classes were the most time consuming by far. Between two classes I wrote 28 essays last semester for the online classes.

katedid · « **Reply #70 on:** December 29, 2011, 02:07:27 PM »

Quote from: lp670sv on December 29, 2011, 02:04:27 PM

Primarily online doesn't mean she'll have anymore time that if she was going to school on Campus. My online classes were the most time consuming by far. Between two classes I wrote 28 essays last semester for the online classes.

Thats probably to replace the lack of class discussion participation aspect of a lecture

lp670sv · « **Reply #71 on:** December 29, 2011, 02:09:57 PM »

We also had message boards we had to post to to fulfill the discussion Q's

SomeKittens · « **Reply #72 on:** December 29, 2011, 02:31:41 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on December 29, 2011, 01:41:40 PM

...she's going to school primarily online, and isn't even all that active to begin with. Kittens, were you even around when Open Discussion was created? Ah, those were the days...

Nope. I'm much more recent than everyone assumes. What'd I miss?

Also: Online is much more difficult than some think.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #73 on:** December 29, 2011, 02:33:31 PM »

I laugh when people tell me online classes; I was cyber-schooled.

katedid · « **Reply #74 on:** December 29, 2011, 02:35:41 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on December 29, 2011, 02:33:31 PM

I laugh when people tell me online classes; I was cyber-schooled.

That sounds horribly boring

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