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Honestly I liked encouragement better.
I'm totally arbitrary in my +-'s to confuse people.
Is it possible to see which users +/- 1 to another, if so, i would like it activated. ( it can also be used to see who is abusing the +/-)
I believe that if we keep -1 (which I hope that we don't), each of us should be able to see who added a minus 1. Do the same for + 1 if you like. Right now only certain people can see who puts a -1 on their posts, and some have a tendency to use that information in an unhealthy way. -1 is a mistake, in my opinion, to have in a forum of Christians that should be encouraging each other, and frankly while it exists it is too tempting for me (and others) to use it on a post I disagree with rather than take the time to issue a response. I have said this before, but I'll say it again. I post at two other sites, one for board games, and one for an MMO, and NEITHER of those sites have the option to -1 a person's posts. It has always seemed very strange that we insist on having it here of all places.
Quote from: stefferweffer on December 20, 2011, 04:40:28 PMI believe that if we keep -1 (which I hope that we don't), each of us should be able to see who added a minus 1. Do the same for + 1 if you like. Right now only certain people can see who puts a -1 on their posts, and some have a tendency to use that information in an unhealthy way. -1 is a mistake, in my opinion, to have in a forum of Christians that should be encouraging each other, and frankly while it exists it is too tempting for me (and others) to use it on a post I disagree with rather than take the time to issue a response. I have said this before, but I'll say it again. I post at two other sites, one for board games, and one for an MMO, and NEITHER of those sites have the option to -1 a person's posts. It has always seemed very strange that we insist on having it here of all places.People do have the right to disagree with someone without getting into a long and involved debate that leads nowhere with no changed minds. A -1 allows for this right in such instances. It is not a slight on anyone. I use it all the time...it is not a personal attack, but my way of disagreeing without getting involved either emotionally or in a time-consuming way. Additionally, as a mod, I keep track of who - or + if the number is more than 2 either way. It is not abused for the most part nor is it some unholy/unChristian attack either. Now I have posted in response to your "2nd" disagreement but wasted 15 minutes of my time when a -1 could have done just as well. Why? Because you have not changed your mind about them despite my logical response. It's a preference and not that big of a deal.
Quote from: soul seeker on December 20, 2011, 09:00:34 PMQuote from: stefferweffer on December 20, 2011, 04:40:28 PMI believe that if we keep -1 (which I hope that we don't), each of us should be able to see who added a minus 1. Do the same for + 1 if you like. Right now only certain people can see who puts a -1 on their posts, and some have a tendency to use that information in an unhealthy way. -1 is a mistake, in my opinion, to have in a forum of Christians that should be encouraging each other, and frankly while it exists it is too tempting for me (and others) to use it on a post I disagree with rather than take the time to issue a response. I have said this before, but I'll say it again. I post at two other sites, one for board games, and one for an MMO, and NEITHER of those sites have the option to -1 a person's posts. It has always seemed very strange that we insist on having it here of all places.People do have the right to disagree with someone without getting into a long and involved debate that leads nowhere with no changed minds. A -1 allows for this right in such instances. It is not a slight on anyone. I use it all the time...it is not a personal attack, but my way of disagreeing without getting involved either emotionally or in a time-consuming way. Additionally, as a mod, I keep track of who - or + if the number is more than 2 either way. It is not abused for the most part nor is it some unholy/unChristian attack either. Now I have posted in response to your "2nd" disagreement but wasted 15 minutes of my time when a -1 could have done just as well. Why? Because you have not changed your mind about them despite my logical response. It's a preference and not that big of a deal.The thing is though, this is a discussion forum. It's made for discussion. There are indeed some instances where I can see a -1 without anything else being necessary, however, the majority of the time, if you're not willing to put forth the effort to explain why you disagree, I'd argue you should just keep your opinion to yourself, even if that opinion is only expressed in that number.I am a part of the 99% who can't see who -1/+1'd my posts, and I am going to occupy this topic.
Quote from: Chronic Apathy on December 22, 2011, 11:31:02 PMQuote from: soul seeker on December 20, 2011, 09:00:34 PMQuote from: stefferweffer on December 20, 2011, 04:40:28 PMI believe that if we keep -1 (which I hope that we don't), each of us should be able to see who added a minus 1. Do the same for + 1 if you like. Right now only certain people can see who puts a -1 on their posts, and some have a tendency to use that information in an unhealthy way. -1 is a mistake, in my opinion, to have in a forum of Christians that should be encouraging each other, and frankly while it exists it is too tempting for me (and others) to use it on a post I disagree with rather than take the time to issue a response. I have said this before, but I'll say it again. I post at two other sites, one for board games, and one for an MMO, and NEITHER of those sites have the option to -1 a person's posts. It has always seemed very strange that we insist on having it here of all places.People do have the right to disagree with someone without getting into a long and involved debate that leads nowhere with no changed minds. A -1 allows for this right in such instances. It is not a slight on anyone. I use it all the time...it is not a personal attack, but my way of disagreeing without getting involved either emotionally or in a time-consuming way. Additionally, as a mod, I keep track of who - or + if the number is more than 2 either way. It is not abused for the most part nor is it some unholy/unChristian attack either. Now I have posted in response to your "2nd" disagreement but wasted 15 minutes of my time when a -1 could have done just as well. Why? Because you have not changed your mind about them despite my logical response. It's a preference and not that big of a deal.The thing is though, this is a discussion forum. It's made for discussion. There are indeed some instances where I can see a -1 without anything else being necessary, however, the majority of the time, if you're not willing to put forth the effort to explain why you disagree, I'd argue you should just keep your opinion to yourself, even if that opinion is only expressed in that number.I am a part of the 99% who can't see who -1/+1'd my posts, and I am going to occupy this topic.I'm part of the 1%, and I think you should get off my lawn.
#LET ME BACK IN OPEN DISCUSSION!!!
I thought the old system was much better, even though it may have been more work. Just my experience