Author Topic: Fav 2009 Movie so far??? (Read 53076 times)

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #225 on:** November 12, 2009, 05:30:26 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on November 12, 2009, 05:25:14 PM

none of those were actually portrayed.

Did you watch the movie? #3 is the only one not "portrayed." All the rest were right there on the screen while I watched with my family.

Master KChief · « **Reply #226 on:** November 12, 2009, 05:43:49 PM »

yeah, i did see the movie. and yeah, it wasn't very violent at all.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #227 on:** November 12, 2009, 05:56:40 PM »

Regardless of your opinion, you stated that the scenes I mentioned were not portrayed, yet they were. What exactly was the point of your previous post?

Cameron the Conqueror · « **Reply #228 on:** November 12, 2009, 06:02:11 PM »

Well, I have not seen the movie. However, after reading imdb's parental post, it would seem violent to me.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1046173/parentalguide

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It is very violent for a PG-13 movie. There are probably no more than 20 minutes where there is not violence.

I like violent movies a lot (Braveheart, Matrix, Gladiator, etc) but just after reading the imdb review it would seem very violent. Not saying that's bad of course though.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #229 on:** November 12, 2009, 06:03:26 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on November 12, 2009, 05:17:38 PM

I don't equate violence just to blood. A sampling of scenes I felt were too violent for children:

1. Guy getting his head cut off.
2. Guy getting long metal probes stuck into his skull as the good guys try to tap into his memory for evidence. His head ends up imploding.
3. An apparent 9-year-old karate student kills his teacher with a sword.
4. The half dozen or so bad guys killed by having a projectile thrust into their eye socket.
5. The 374 people killed in the movie.

I don't remember any except for maybe 3 and 5. I'm going to watch the movie again...
oh, was 4 in the first battle?
2 seems to make me think of x-men origins. was that 2009? that was a good one.

Master KChief · « **Reply #230 on:** November 12, 2009, 07:46:57 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on November 12, 2009, 05:56:40 PM

Regardless of your opinion, you stated that the scenes I mentioned were not portrayed, yet they were. What exactly was the point of your previous post?

i do not remember any of those scenes being explicitly portrayed (otherwise the movie would have garnered a r rating). maybe implied, but never shown explicity. i do not recall a mans head being shown severed. i do not remember it showing a mans head imploding. it does not show the child killing the teacher. it does not show projectiles penetrating any part of a mans skull. and is 374 an arbitrary number, or just some number you got off one of those movie-violence watchgroup websites?

lightningninja · « **Reply #231 on:** November 12, 2009, 08:32:22 PM »

The movie definitely did not actually show objects getting thrust into people's eyesockets... did it? If so, I must have REALLY forgotten the whole movie.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #232 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:41:33 PM »

Wow. You guys are amazing. In case you missed my earlier post. I just watched it. You are trying to remember something you watched....when? I just watched it. Instead of apparently calling me a liar....watch it again. It's all there. I don't read movie reviews. I told you what I saw.

The real irony here is that a few of you have said that you don't remember the movie being violent. What is the defintion of violence? This movie is all about killing, fighting, and maiming. What about this movie is not violence?

When you say that you don't remember any violence, what you are really saying is that you do not remember any novel violence. Our society has become so densensitized to violence that you don't even notice it unless it is unique or downright shocking. Eventually, nothing will be shocking. People will be getting killed when you walk down the street and you won't even notice.

Master KChief · « **Reply #233 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:46:13 PM »

again, the movie doesnt show any of the things you describe explicitly. isnt that the point of a pg-13 rating? im sure the motion pictures of america ratings board knows what they're doing.

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...there may be depictions of violence in a PG-13 movie, but generally not both realistic and extreme or persistent violence...

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #234 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:48:07 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on November 12, 2009, 09:46:13 PM

again, the movie doesnt show any of the things you describe explicitly. isnt that the point of a pg-13 rating?

Again, I just watched those things explicitly. Have you watched it in the past 24 hours? I have.

Since when does PG-13 mean anything these days? The raters are just as desensitized as you are.

Master KChief · « **Reply #235 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:50:31 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on November 12, 2009, 09:48:07 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on November 12, 2009, 09:46:13 PM
again, the movie doesnt show any of the things you describe explicitly. isnt that the point of a pg-13 rating?

Again, I just watched those things explicitly. Have you watched it in the past 24 hours? I have.

Since when does PG-13 mean anything these days? The raters are just as desensitized as you are.

well you seem to recall things no one else in this thread can. even so, whereas i would let my children watch it versus how you wouldnt doesnt make either one of us more right than the other. personally, i think its a harmless kids franchise.

i also implore you to re-examine what you may believe is 'explicit'. did you actually see a head severed from a body, or did someone demonstrate the notion of decapitating someone, the camera panning away, and a head later rolling on the ground? did you actually see someones head explode, or what seems to be the remains of a persons head on the ground? there is a big difference from seeing it actually done (a la saw style) and it being implied.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #236 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:54:24 PM »

I haven't said anything about right or wrong for anybody but my family. You assume too much.

What densensitized people "recall" is not relevant. Watch the movie again, this time looking for what I listed and you will see it.

Your MPAA quote says "generally," which would indicate that exceptions are made.

FYI, saying that violence is harmless is truly ironic.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #237 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:56:33 PM »

You keep editing your posts. That will make it difficult to answer your questions. I told you what I saw, not what was implied. I am educated enough to know the difference, but thanks for the insult anyway. I guess I had that coming after what I said to Schaef.

Master KChief · « **Reply #238 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:57:04 PM »

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Since when does PG-13 mean anything these days? The raters are just as desensitized as you are.

its all subjective. thats like saying tetris or super mario could be violent because one could demonstrate dropping blocks on people while the other encourages drug abuse. maybe you're oversensitized.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #239 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:58:35 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on November 12, 2009, 09:57:04 PM

maybe you're oversensitized.

As steward of the gift that God has given me (my children), that is a label I accept graciously.

Master KChief · « **Reply #240 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:59:08 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on November 12, 2009, 09:56:33 PM

...I am educated enough to know the difference, but thanks for the insult anyway...

i wasnt trying to insult you. im just saying i put far more value in the mpaa ratings board which are trained professionals than i do the opinion of one random parent.

Master KChief · « **Reply #241 on:** November 12, 2009, 09:59:55 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on November 12, 2009, 09:58:35 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on November 12, 2009, 09:57:04 PM
maybe you're oversensitized.

As steward of the gift that God has given me (my children), that is a label I accept graciously.

understood. but you cant go around judging other people because they dont share the same values as you.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #242 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:02:20 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on November 12, 2009, 09:59:08 PM

im just saying i put far more value in the mpaa ratings board which are trained professionals than i do the opinion of one random parent.

Then watch the movie.... just one more time.... for me.

Quote from: Master KChief on November 12, 2009, 09:59:55 PM

but you cant go around judging other people because they dont share the same values as you.

You are being defensive about something I did not say. I said that I thought the movie was too violent for my family. Read my posts again.

Master KChief · « **Reply #243 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:04:50 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on November 12, 2009, 09:48:07 PM

Since when does PG-13 mean anything these days? The raters are just as desensitized as you are.

is this not passing judgement? maybe im sensitized just enough.

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Then watch the movie.... just one more time.... for me.

maybe i would...if i could stream it instantly from netflix on my xbox 360...but i dont think i can. its one of those movies anyways thats only good for the intial shock/entertainment value. saw it once at the movies when it first came out, not really that great for a repeat viewing.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #244 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:12:47 PM »

Densensitization is not a judgment of character. Desensitization is an affect of society and media. Stating that you are desensitized is evidenced by your statement that you did not remember the movie being violent at all. That was why I stated the definition of violence.

With that said, we are all desensitized to many things, depending on our exposure. I would think that most veterans are desensitized to violence because they saw it every day all around them. That doesn't make an insult.

I think we just have a miscommunication of terminology. Hopefully this explains what I meant better. i.e. the MPAA raters were not that concerned with the violence in GI Joe because they had just finished rating Saw VI and Hostel III.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #245 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:15:35 PM »

There's more violence than should be expected in a movie about action figures. End of story.

Master KChief · « **Reply #246 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:15:52 PM »

haha, maybe. saw iv was graphic (but not that graphic as previous ones).

claiming something/someone is 'desensitized' is subjective; it just matters upon the perspective. again, whereas 99% of society wouldnt find tetris or super mario to be violent at all, there are some out there that will.

Master KChief · « **Reply #247 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:17:18 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on November 12, 2009, 10:15:35 PM

There's more violence than should be expected in a movie about action figures. End of story.

an action figure line based upon guns and war? riiight.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #248 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:18:17 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on November 12, 2009, 10:04:50 PM

maybe i would...if i could stream it instantly from netflix on my xbox 360...but i dont think i can. its one of those movies anyways thats only good for the intial shock/entertainment value. saw it once at the movies when it first came out, not really that great for a repeat viewing.

Netflix just sent me the Streaming Video Disc for the PS3 and I don't even own one. I'll email them to see if an Xbox version is coming soon.

So, don't watch it for the shock/entertainment value. Watch it this time just to prove me wrong and say so here.

FWIW, I did not find Tetris or Mario violent. Now the Three Stooges on the other hand....

Master KChief · « **Reply #249 on:** November 12, 2009, 10:23:08 PM »

well no, im saying you can stream netflix on the xbox 360, but i dont think gi joe is available to be streamed; im pretty sure you can only have them send you the disk. thats how it usually is with netflix streaming...you can usually only get the older stuff.

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Author Topic: Fav 2009 Movie so far??? (Read 53076 times)

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