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Title: christian denominations
Post by: ender17 on May 08, 2009, 04:35:31 PM
What all christian denominations are here on the boards?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: New Raven BR on May 08, 2009, 04:41:35 PM
what do you mean?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Jack Skellington on May 08, 2009, 04:48:23 PM
What all christian denominations are here on the boards?

seriously
like it matters?
 ;)
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: soul seeker on May 08, 2009, 04:48:29 PM
I think he is asking what every member's denominational background is...
Currently I go to a Non-denominational church that has EUB & Baptist background roots.
   But I have either worked, volunteered, or attended the following denominations:
Christian & Missionary's Alliance
Baptist   (3 different churches in 3 different states/cities)
United Methodist
attended a pentacostal church and a Church of Christ a couple times in my life
Free Methodist
Evangelical Methodist

I think people put too much emphasis on denominations, and make them too much of an obstacle.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: The Schaef on May 08, 2009, 04:53:25 PM
I agree.  That said, I am fairly certain every color of the rainbow is represented here.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 08, 2009, 04:58:48 PM
I've been raised in the non-denominational church where my mother is a minister (often a traveling minister), soon to be officially ordained.
I've been attending a Presbyterian church for the past year or two with my brother, but have been leaning heavily to a conversion to Catholicism for sometime now. I attended a Nazarene university last year and will be attending a non-denominational university next semester.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on May 08, 2009, 05:01:29 PM
If I had to pick, Non-denominational.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: New Raven BR on May 08, 2009, 05:36:32 PM
Baptist here
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: TheMarti on May 08, 2009, 05:38:38 PM
United Brethren, with some Pentecostal/non-denom influences in there...

Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on May 08, 2009, 05:55:44 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 08, 2009, 06:01:26 PM
Messianic Christian.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: golgotha on May 08, 2009, 06:33:52 PM
My Christian Denomination is a Twenty...Least thats the denomination I put in the offering plate...
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Jack Skellington on May 08, 2009, 07:31:13 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 

mhm lol
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: BubbleBoy on May 08, 2009, 07:48:34 PM
I believe the church I currently attend is Assembly of God...but no weird stuff. ;) I personally like to refer to myself as non-denominational.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: DaClock on May 08, 2009, 08:54:27 PM
I've gone to Nazarene/Baptist churches for my whole life.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Korunks on May 08, 2009, 09:51:59 PM
I am a Christian who attends a southern Baptist church, I have also attended Fundamental Baptist and Non-Denominational.  I also echo that denominations are too heavily focused on.  I would attend any bible believing church regardless of what the sign out front said.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: DaClock on May 09, 2009, 12:43:55 AM
I am a Christian who attends a southern Baptist church, I have also attended Fundamental Baptist and Non-Denominational.  I also echo that denominations are too heavily focused on.  I would attend any bible believing church regardless of what the sign out front said.

Careful, just because a church claims to be "bible believing" doesn't mean thats all they believe. For example, LDS churches believe in the bible but also supplement the scriptures with the writings of Joseph Smith.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 09, 2009, 02:03:29 AM
I am a Christian who attends a southern Baptist church, I have also attended Fundamental Baptist and Non-Denominational.  I also echo that denominations are too heavily focused on.  I would attend any bible believing church regardless of what the sign out front said.

Careful, just because a church claims to be "bible believing" doesn't mean thats all they believe. For example, LDS churches believe in the bible but also supplement the scriptures with the writings of Joseph Smith.
Technically speaking, the Mormons are a seperate faith.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: EmJayBee83 on May 09, 2009, 11:49:08 AM
I am a Christian who attends a southern Baptist church, I have also attended Fundamental Baptist and Non-Denominational.  I also echo that denominations are too heavily focused on.  I would attend any bible believing church regardless of what the sign out front said.

Careful, just because a church claims to be "bible believing" doesn't mean thats all they believe. For example, LDS churches believe in the bible but also supplement the scriptures with the writings of Joseph Smith.
Technically speaking, the Mormons are a seperate faith.
Not according to the Mormons, which is, I believe, DaClock's point.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 09, 2009, 11:50:46 AM
I am a Christian who attends a southern Baptist church, I have also attended Fundamental Baptist and Non-Denominational.  I also echo that denominations are too heavily focused on.  I would attend any bible believing church regardless of what the sign out front said.

Careful, just because a church claims to be "bible believing" doesn't mean thats all they believe. For example, LDS churches believe in the bible but also supplement the scriptures with the writings of Joseph Smith.
Technically speaking, the Mormons are a seperate faith.
Not according to the Mormons, which is, I believe, DaClock's point.
It doesn't really matter if the Mormons think they are christians or not. They're not.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: crustpope on May 09, 2009, 12:01:42 PM
I havent seen any Sally's mentioned yet.

I used to work at a Sally camp for two summers.  is that enough to make me one or should I get a uniform and a rank  ;)

I always thought that was cool about the salvation army, how they ranked everyone according to ordained position in the chruch.  its kinda like being in a real army of god.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: STAMP on May 09, 2009, 12:23:53 PM
Mormons believe in the Book of Mormon and sometimes supplement with scriptures from the Bible.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: DaClock on May 09, 2009, 02:39:28 PM
I'm not saying that Mormon is a Christian denomination. I am saying that they claim to be Christians and they claim to believe in the bible. Therefore, if someone were to "go to a bible-believing church regardless of what the sign said outside," they could end up at a Mormon church.

Anyway, I don't think we should continue a discussion on Mormonism in this thread. It could be a discussion of its own if anybody would like to continue.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Clarinetguy097 on May 09, 2009, 04:01:46 PM
I'm Lutheran!!!
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 09, 2009, 04:10:00 PM
I'm Lutheran!!!
Schweet.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Red on May 09, 2009, 06:00:09 PM
Babtist.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 09, 2009, 07:28:04 PM
Presbyterian.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: SoulSaver on May 09, 2009, 11:01:24 PM
Mormon here
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 09, 2009, 11:05:13 PM
 :-X

Forget I said anything.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 09, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
I was unaware that Mormons referred to themselves as "Christians"; therefore, I stand corrected.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 09, 2009, 11:10:10 PM
I was unaware that Mormons referred to themselves as "Christians"; therefore, I stand corrected.
Not yet.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: SoulSaver on May 09, 2009, 11:10:30 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 09, 2009, 11:22:54 PM
 ::) Of course
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Sean on May 10, 2009, 12:29:46 AM
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Mormon here
Really?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 10, 2009, 12:36:54 AM
Did you read the above posts?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Korunks on May 10, 2009, 07:53:17 AM
I should have put "bible believing" in quotes.  I have actually attended(very shortly) bible believing churches which actually weren't.  I just decided to not make a long exhaustive definition of what I find bible believing to mean, because it would have been long and I doubt any one would have wanted to read it! ;)
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Sean on May 10, 2009, 12:59:11 PM
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Did you read the above posts?
Yes, and I'm not sure how that matters.  I was wondering if he was serious or if he was just saying it because of the comments about Mormonism.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 01:27:23 PM

You guys should be more conscientious to the Christians on these boards who don't believe in the bible to the nth degree.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 10, 2009, 01:56:53 PM

You guys should be more conscientious to the Christians on these boards who don't believe in the bible to the nth degree.
What is a nth?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Sean on May 10, 2009, 02:19:27 PM
"nth" is a mathematical term. 
You guys should be more conscientious to the Christians on these boards who don't believe in the bible to the nth degree.
I find it hard to be a Christian without believing the Bible.  Also, just because somebody says, "I'm a Christian." doesn't mean they really are.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Rrulez on May 10, 2009, 02:24:23 PM
"nth" is a mathematical term. 
You guys should be more conscientious to the Christians on these boards who don't believe in the bible to the nth degree.
I find it hard to be a Christian without believing the Bible.  Also, just because somebody says, "I'm a Christian." doesn't mean they really are.
'Twas what I thought  ::). Also, you can't be a Christian if you don't believe in the Bible, unless you are a [edited by R.O.S.E.S].
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 10, 2009, 03:27:40 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 


Lol Wow what a shot at denominations, especially Catholics and Lutherans. Man, whoever said tradition was bad?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: DaClock on May 10, 2009, 03:51:56 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 


Lol Wow what a shot at denominations, especially Catholics and Lutherans. Man, whoever said tradition was bad?

Sola Scriptura?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 04:12:00 PM
I personally like tradition based faiths over Bible based faiths; they make more historical sense [to me].
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 10, 2009, 04:49:08 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 


Lol Wow what a shot at denominations, especially Catholics and Lutherans. Man, whoever said tradition was bad?

Sola Scriptura?

That has nothing to do with any sort of "tradition" in my comment. FWIW, Sola Scriptura is one of those doctrines that Cameron doesn't like.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: DaClock on May 10, 2009, 04:57:10 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 


Lol Wow what a shot at denominations, especially Catholics and Lutherans. Man, whoever said tradition was bad?

Sola Scriptura?

That has nothing to do with any sort of "tradition" in my comment. FWIW, Sola Scriptura is one of those doctrines that Cameron doesn't like.

You're right, my mistake. I was just thinking that sola scriptura sounds a lot like the 100% bible, 0% tradition/doctrine that Cameron mentioned. However, they are defined differently.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 05:05:52 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 


Lol Wow what a shot at denominations, especially Catholics and Lutherans. Man, whoever said tradition was bad?

Sola Scriptura?

That has nothing to do with any sort of "tradition" in my comment. FWIW, Sola Scriptura is one of those doctrines that Cameron doesn't like.
How can he say 100% based on the Bible and not like Sola Scriptura?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 10, 2009, 06:19:30 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 


Lol Wow what a shot at denominations, especially Catholics and Lutherans. Man, whoever said tradition was bad?

Sola Scriptura?

That has nothing to do with any sort of "tradition" in my comment. FWIW, Sola Scriptura is one of those doctrines that Cameron doesn't like.

You're right, my mistake. I was just thinking that sola scriptura sounds a lot like the 100% bible, 0% tradition/doctrine that Cameron mentioned. However, they are defined differently.

Ok if you want to go that way.

Do you believe in the tradition that Jesus is God's Son? No, because then you wouldn't be 0% tradition. Face it, even if you say "bible-believing" your still in large amounts of traditional beleifs.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: The Spy on May 10, 2009, 06:33:05 PM
Ok if you want to go that way.

Do you believe in the tradition that Jesus is God's Son? No, because then you wouldn't be 0% tradition. Face it, even if you say "bible-believing" your still in large amounts of traditional beleifs.
Maybe I am missing your point entirely, but it sounded to me like you just made the following argument:
Do you believe that Jesus is God's Son? If you do believe that, then you are following tradition.

I would like to add that this is a Scriptural belief, rather than traditional. Unless you mean that the Bible is a tradition in of itself, your argument naturally contradicts itself. (I mean nothing personal, but I just thought I would point that out.)

I am also non-denominational, and I personally have a hard time agreeing with non-scriptural traditions. Furthermore, since everyone is free to express their opinion, that is where I stand. I do not hold people that I disagree with in contempt over this matter, and feel obligated to say so.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: DaClock on May 10, 2009, 08:26:11 PM
Non-denominational here.  100% based on the Bible, not doctrines or tradition. 


Lol Wow what a shot at denominations, especially Catholics and Lutherans. Man, whoever said tradition was bad?

Sola Scriptura?

That has nothing to do with any sort of "tradition" in my comment. FWIW, Sola Scriptura is one of those doctrines that Cameron doesn't like.

You're right, my mistake. I was just thinking that sola scriptura sounds a lot like the 100% bible, 0% tradition/doctrine that Cameron mentioned. However, they are defined differently.

Ok if you want to go that way.

Do you believe in the tradition that Jesus is God's Son? No, because then you wouldn't be 0% tradition. Face it, even if you say "bible-believing" your still in large amounts of traditional beleifs.

I was giving up and saying I agreed with you, how did that stimulate more conversation?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 08:29:53 PM
I believe that the book of Revelation was written as an indirect political critique of the Roman empire, but that's not necessarily an uncommon tradition.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: 777Godspeed on May 10, 2009, 08:49:47 PM
Assembly of God.



Godspeed,
Mike
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 10, 2009, 08:58:29 PM
Ok if you want to go that way.

Do you believe in the tradition that Jesus is God's Son? No, because then you wouldn't be 0% tradition. Face it, even if you say "bible-believing" your still in large amounts of traditional beleifs.
Maybe I am missing your point entirely, but it sounded to me like you just made the following argument:
Do you believe that Jesus is God's Son? If you do believe that, then you are following tradition.

I would like to add that this is a Scriptural belief, rather than traditional. Unless you mean that the Bible is a tradition in of itself, your argument naturally contradicts itself. (I mean nothing personal, but I just thought I would point that out.)

I am also non-denominational, and I personally have a hard time agreeing with non-scriptural traditions. Furthermore, since everyone is free to express their opinion, that is where I stand. I do not hold people that I disagree with in contempt over this matter, and feel obligated to say so.

And it's also Christian Tradition. I just want to point out that tradition is much more valuable than more people think, but they toss it out because they "aren't catholic" or are "bible believing". Newsflash: You can believe in both, as long as you know which one is superior in conflicts.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: BubbleBoy on May 10, 2009, 09:02:17 PM
The Bible should be the sole source of religion. Tradition is typically just an interpretation of Biblical teachings, and if it is not, it should not be followed.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 09:05:40 PM
The Bible should be the sole source of religion. Tradition is typically just an interpretation of Biblical teachings, and if it is not, it should not be followed.
From a scholarly perspective, the Bible is the chronological foundation of an evolving tradition. Catechisms and works of theology have developed over the course of Christian history which would be very foolish to ignore.


Ok if you want to go that way.

Do you believe in the tradition that Jesus is God's Son? No, because then you wouldn't be 0% tradition. Face it, even if you say "bible-believing" your still in large amounts of traditional beleifs.
Maybe I am missing your point entirely, but it sounded to me like you just made the following argument:
Do you believe that Jesus is God's Son? If you do believe that, then you are following tradition.

I would like to add that this is a Scriptural belief, rather than traditional. Unless you mean that the Bible is a tradition in of itself, your argument naturally contradicts itself. (I mean nothing personal, but I just thought I would point that out.)

I am also non-denominational, and I personally have a hard time agreeing with non-scriptural traditions. Furthermore, since everyone is free to express their opinion, that is where I stand. I do not hold people that I disagree with in contempt over this matter, and feel obligated to say so.

And it's also Christian Tradition. I just want to point out that tradition is much more valuable than more people think, but they toss it out because they "aren't catholic" or are "bible believing". Newsflash: You can believe in both, as long as you know which one is superior in conflicts.

dude delete this! it totaly stops this topic cause you cant say anything without ofending someone.
I don't see how it is offensive at all.

I don't personally believe that the Bible supercedes tradition because the Bible itself IS a tradition. Tradition should be judged by the same standards that any historian or geneologist judges anything.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 09:12:43 PM
The Bible should be the sole source of religion. Tradition is typically just an interpretation of Biblical teachings, and if it is not, it should not be followed.
From a scholarly perspective, the Bible is the chronological foundation of an evolving tradition. Catechisms and works of theology have developed over the course of Christian history which would be very foolish to ignore.

ah!... i agree ther is only one way to heaven and that is through the bible and other stuf. you cant get to heaven babtised as a baby cause you dont know what is happening. the only way to get to heaven is pray the prayer and when your saved get babtised! (and i lack this(the babtised part <.<)). ther is  no other way but through God.
That's your opinion, which you are entitled to for your own self. However, to assume that your opinion is universal is somewhat vain.

I personally think it's quite dangerous to deify the Bible, for it plays absolutely no role in our salvation WHATSOEVER.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 10, 2009, 09:13:08 PM
The Bible should be the sole source of religion. Tradition is typically just an interpretation of Biblical teachings, and if it is not, it should not be followed.

For once I can say, I completely agree with Colin.

Ok if you want to go that way.

Do you believe in the tradition that Jesus is God's Son? No, because then you wouldn't be 0% tradition. Face it, even if you say "bible-believing" your still in large amounts of traditional beleifs.
Maybe I am missing your point entirely, but it sounded to me like you just made the following argument:
Do you believe that Jesus is God's Son? If you do believe that, then you are following tradition.

I would like to add that this is a Scriptural belief, rather than traditional. Unless you mean that the Bible is a tradition in of itself, your argument naturally contradicts itself. (I mean nothing personal, but I just thought I would point that out.)

I am also non-denominational, and I personally have a hard time agreeing with non-scriptural traditions. Furthermore, since everyone is free to express their opinion, that is where I stand. I do not hold people that I disagree with in contempt over this matter, and feel obligated to say so.

And it's also Christian Tradition. I just want to point out that tradition is much more valuable than more people think, but they toss it out because they "aren't catholic" or are "bible believing". Newsflash: You can believe in both, as long as you know which one is superior in conflicts.

dude delete this! it totaly stops this topic cause you cant say anything without ofending someone.

DuDe TyPe BeTtEr! Seriously, I am entitled to question posts on the board within a reasonable extent and that is what I am doing. If I am offending you by saying you are wrong, then please remember that next time you try to witness and someone gets offended when you tell them they are wrong.
The Bible should be the sole source of religion. Tradition is typically just an interpretation of Biblical teachings, and if it is not, it should not be followed.
From a scholarly perspective, the Bible is the chronological foundation of an evolving tradition. Catechisms and works of theology have developed over the course of Christian history which would be very foolish to ignore.

ah!... i agree ther is only one way to heaven and that is through the bible and other stuf. you cant get to heaven babtised as a baby cause you dont know what is happening. the only way to get to heaven is pray the prayer and when your saved get babtised! (and i lack this(the babtised part <.<)). ther is  no other way but through God.

And this one...lolz at misunderstnading of stuff.

1. You bring up baby baptism from nowhere, so I am ignoring.
2. There is no magic saving prayer
3. You randomly threw God in at the end.


Small tangent: This mad uneducation of doctrinal matter is precisely why I hate my nondenom church. This is what we get for not liking tradition.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: lightningninja on May 10, 2009, 09:17:43 PM
I personally think it's quite dangerous to deify the Bible
Could you define deify?
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it plays absolutely no role in our salvation WHATSOEVER.
That is not true. I don't think God would have put it all together if it was entirely pointless. I'd just read Lord of the Rings if I want entertainment.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Lawfuldog on May 10, 2009, 09:24:10 PM
Muzik Maker, everyone has a right to their own opinion.

And Colin is one of the smartest people I've ever met, you have no room to talk about someones education when you don't use any punctuation or grammar in your posts.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: lightningninja on May 10, 2009, 09:25:28 PM
Define smart....  ;D jkjk, I also have realized that Colin is very smart.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 09:31:26 PM
I personally think it's quite dangerous to deify the Bible
Could you define deify?
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it plays absolutely no role in our salvation WHATSOEVER.
That is not true. I don't think God would have put it all together if it was entirely pointless. I'd just read Lord of the Rings if I want entertainment.
I meant that the Bible is not some kind of "deity".

I don't think God put it together, but for sake of argument I'll explain what I meant. The Bible does is not our redemption. It does not "save" you; Christ alone does that.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Lawfuldog on May 10, 2009, 09:32:00 PM
Muzik Maker, everyone has a right to their own opinion.

And Colin is one of the smartest people I've ever met, you have no room to talk about someones education when you don't use any punctuation or grammar in your posts.

NOTICE: i said janisarry

You edited it to say that.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: lightningninja on May 10, 2009, 09:51:45 PM
I personally think it's quite dangerous to deify the Bible
Could you define deify?
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it plays absolutely no role in our salvation WHATSOEVER.
That is not true. I don't think God would have put it all together if it was entirely pointless. I'd just read Lord of the Rings if I want entertainment.
I meant that the Bible is not some kind of "deity".

I don't think God put it together, but for sake of argument I'll explain what I meant. The Bible does is not our redemption. It does not "save" you; Christ alone does that.
Ah, okay well that I will agree with. It does not save you. However, so easily submitting the entire compilation of God's work on earth and all his promises that will to come as COMPLETELY meaningless to the Christian faith is a slippery slope.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 09:56:48 PM
I personally think it's quite dangerous to deify the Bible
Could you define deify?
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it plays absolutely no role in our salvation WHATSOEVER.
That is not true. I don't think God would have put it all together if it was entirely pointless. I'd just read Lord of the Rings if I want entertainment.
I meant that the Bible is not some kind of "deity".

I don't think God put it together, but for sake of argument I'll explain what I meant. The Bible does is not our redemption. It does not "save" you; Christ alone does that.
Ah, okay well that I will agree with. It does not save you. However, so easily submitting the entire compilation of God's work on earth and all his promises that will to come as COMPLETELY meaningless to the Christian faith is a slippery slope.
So God stopped working after the Bible?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: The Spy on May 10, 2009, 09:56:54 PM
Instead of getting cought up in all of the finger pointing, I will just respond to this:
Ok if you want to go that way.

Do you believe in the tradition that Jesus is God's Son? No, because then you wouldn't be 0% tradition. Face it, even if you say "bible-believing" your still in large amounts of traditional beleifs.
Maybe I am missing your point entirely, but it sounded to me like you just made the following argument:
Do you believe that Jesus is God's Son? If you do believe that, then you are following tradition.

I would like to add that this is a Scriptural belief, rather than traditional. Unless you mean that the Bible is a tradition in of itself, your argument naturally contradicts itself. (I mean nothing personal, but I just thought I would point that out.)

I am also non-denominational, and I personally have a hard time agreeing with non-scriptural traditions. Furthermore, since everyone is free to express their opinion, that is where I stand. I do not hold people that I disagree with in contempt over this matter, and feel obligated to say so.

And it's also Christian Tradition. I just want to point out that tradition is much more valuable than more people think, but they toss it out because they "aren't catholic" or are "bible believing". Newsflash: You can believe in both, as long as you know which one is superior in conflicts.
First, I would encourage you to use less sarcastic/abrasive speech. I am not ignorant of your opinion, and I respect it fully. However, I do disagree with it. ;) I think the problem in this argument is widespread and that many people who have posted on this thread have mistaken tradition for interpretation. I would argue that the two are very different aspects of a faith, and should not be mistaken for one another. Furthermore, I didn't say that you can't believe in both traditions and the Bible, but I tend to have a very cynical view of mankind. I believe that if it is non-Biblical, then it is worthy of research and questioning. (Not that the Bible isn't, but I would regard the Bible as an authority rather than the traditions of man. In a world filled with doubt and contradictions, I prefer to wield the weapon that is sharper than a double-edged sword than any faulty words of man which I think are about as sharp as bubbles :preach:.)

Godbless,
~The Spy
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 10, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
Musicain, in order to get people to listen to your verses, you have to first convince them that the Bible is divinely inspired, inerrant, and universally applicable to all cultures.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: lightningninja on May 10, 2009, 09:59:46 PM
So God stopped working after the Bible?
Where did I say that? God is still working absolutely. That is his work ON EARTH. Until the end times.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 10, 2009, 10:05:53 PM
So God stopped working after the Bible?
Where did I say that? God is still working absolutely. That is his work ON EARTH. Until the end times.
The why should the Bible be considered...
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the entire compilation of God's work on earth and all his promises
when God has been doing a lot more since.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Alex_Olijar on May 10, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
no i didnt  ??? but if non of you have understood the bible verses i posted its telling us that ther is only one way through heaven and thats through christ alone.

Note one: First time you mentioned Christ.
Note two: Explain to me the exact way a person becomes saved so that I can understand you.

To Spy: You reading the bible is simply you putting your spin on it. AKA the spy's interpretations, AKA fallible. It makes no difference who is dong the interpreting if there is any at all, then it's all the same.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: SoulSaver on May 10, 2009, 10:40:57 PM
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I don't think God put it together [the bible]...

In a sense he did, he just used Moses, Allah and a few other people to write it for him.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: soul seeker on May 10, 2009, 10:54:24 PM
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I don't think God put it together [the bible]...

In a sense he did, he just used Moses, Allah and a few other people to write it for him.

Allah?   ???
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: The Schaef on May 10, 2009, 10:56:53 PM
I don't think to believe the Bible is inspired and accurate is to deify it.  It only recognizes God's work in revealing Himself.  Which of course begs the question regarding the "Christ alone, not the Bible" argument.  We know of Jesus' life and works from the Bible.  The gospel accounts detail His life, His ministry, His miracles, His sacrifice and resurrection.  I find it rather difficult to believe in the saving power of Christ without knowing what He did, what He said, who He said it to, why He said it, the nature of His sacrifice or the victory of His resurrection.  Apart from a miraculous revelation, you're sort of stuck if you don't put any stock in Scriptures.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Sean on May 10, 2009, 11:03:55 PM
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In a sense he did, he just used Moses, Allah and a few other people to write it for him.
I'm not aware of any book of the Bible that was written by some dude named Allah.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: SoulSaver on May 10, 2009, 11:05:26 PM
Come on guys it was a joke, sheesh!  :-*
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Sean on May 10, 2009, 11:07:25 PM
Does that mean that you are not Mormon also?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: SoulSaver on May 10, 2009, 11:10:35 PM
Hey, you're catching on to my humor... :-* Bravo :-*
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: The Schaef on May 10, 2009, 11:54:29 PM
This is starting to go down some pretty dark rabbit holes.  If we can maybe pull it back to the simple poll from the beginning, I won't have to lock this down.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: lightningninja on May 11, 2009, 12:01:17 AM
I don't think I have a denomination. Just Christian.  :)
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: RTSmaniac on May 11, 2009, 12:53:29 AM
just tell me what forums you dont moderate schaeff so i can be sure not to offend
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: RTSmaniac on May 11, 2009, 12:58:01 AM
and you soulsaver...
keep up your crap, and i will come over there personally and straighten you out.
have you bought your tickets yet?
(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcactusgamedesign.com%2Fmessage_boards%2FThemes%2Fdefault%2Fimages%2Fwarnpmod.gif&hash=bc306538caeb0188fb1ccfe476add81c7473f295) Threats of physical violence will not be tolerated.
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: Colin Michael on May 11, 2009, 12:58:36 AM
just tell me what forums you dont moderate schaeff so i can be sure not to offend
He's an Administrator.


Do you know what an administrator is?
Title: Re: christian denominations
Post by: The Schaef on May 11, 2009, 08:11:20 AM
Sarcasm and threats of physical violence.

Way to take it in the complete opposite direction.
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