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I think it's best to just stick with the canon books.

The emperors martyred many a Christian (Just look at FooF)

So did many emperors following them

I think it's best to just stick with the canon books.

To late. We already have used non canon sources. I am not saying add the Koran or the book of Mormon. I am just say we could broaden the scope of cards to include a large portion of Christians who also have the Apocrypha as a part of their Bibles...like Catholics.

Tobit- Multi-colored evil character */* Negate and discard Garden Tomb.  (*= # of Garden Tombs destroyed.)

Tobit wouldn't be an evil character. But I like where you were going anyway.

Quote from: Deist on July 20, 2010, 11:41:20 PM

I am not saying add the Koran or the book of Mormon. I am just say we could broaden the scope of cards to include a large portion of Christians who also have the Apocrypha as a part of their Bibles...like Catholics.

I see where you are coming from here, but I think it's best we just stick with the stuff we know everyone is comfortable with, especially while that source is still abundant.

Quote from: Deist on July 20, 2010, 11:41:20 PM

I am not saying add the Koran or the book of Mormon. I am just say we could broaden the scope of cards to include a large portion of Christians who also have the Apocrypha as a part of their Bibles...like Catholics.

I see where you are coming from here, but I think it's best we just stick with the stuff we know everyone is comfortable with, especially while that source is still abundant.

But is it? I think cactus will do a great job reprinting some older characters to make them relevant to the game with the disciples set and may one or two more sets. I just don't want to see them really scraping for characters by pouring through the genealogies. I think a lot can be said when a verse correlates to a card. You can't get that in the middle of a list of David's genealogy.

To be fair, like 10 Priests in the Bible actually have stuff about them other than their names.

Sounds like you should have spent your money and created a card game based on the bible.

define 'popular'.

Only one other COLLECTIBLE CARD game has done this (to be clear)...and in such a niche market such as Christian games. It really is quite impressive how God has used the initial efforts of one guy (Mr. Anderson) to bring so many gamers from around the country together in real, authentic*, community.

*Obviously the connection you have with others around this game and in general is up to you as an individual so don't break me down on this one too hard!

Quote from: Master KChief on July 21, 2010, 03:46:10 AM

define 'popular'.

Popular (in this case) is having a fan base that is large enough to buy enough product to keep the card game profitable (or at least breaking even) so that the game stays alive for 15 years (which only 1 other game has done).

Couldn't have said it better myself. Magic is the longest running TCG. Pokemon and Yugioh I believe are still hanging in there but no game has stood the telling of time like Magic.

Quote from: Prof Underwood on July 21, 2010, 09:48:43 AM

Quote from: Master KChief on July 21, 2010, 03:46:10 AM

define 'popular'.

Popular (in this case) is having a fan base that is large enough to buy enough product to keep the card game profitable (or at least breaking even) so that the game stays alive for 15 years (which only 1 other game has done).

Couldn't have said it better myself. Magic is the longest running TCG. Pokemon and Yugioh I believe are still hanging in there but no game has stood the telling of time like Magic.

But to be fair its not like Yugioh or Pokemon have even been around for 15 years yet, so they very well could be but they didn't come out early enough.  But I will say one of the biggest advantages Redemption has to combat is "smaller target audience" is that we have built such a good community so that people not only enjoy playing the game but enjoy being with the people who play the game

Quote from: Deist on July 21, 2010, 02:35:45 PM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on July 21, 2010, 09:48:43 AM

Quote from: Master KChief on July 21, 2010, 03:46:10 AM

define 'popular'.

Popular (in this case) is having a fan base that is large enough to buy enough product to keep the card game profitable (or at least breaking even) so that the game stays alive for 15 years (which only 1 other game has done).

Couldn't have said it better myself. Magic is the longest running TCG. Pokemon and Yugioh I believe are still hanging in there but no game has stood the telling of time like Magic.

But to be fair its not like Yugioh or Pokemon have even been around for 15 years yet, so they very well could be but they didn't come out early enough.  But I will say one of the biggest advantages Redemption has to combat is "smaller target audience" is that we have built such a good community so that people not only enjoy playing the game but enjoy being with the people who play the game

I can't say I have enjoyed playing with some people in every card game I have played. I have played Magic, Pokemon, and Yugioh with people while not enjoying playing redemption with others. I enjoy Magic because the play group is generally more mature. I agree with you on the fact that redemption has a very strong long distance relationship with its players that is not generally shared with other games. I think the small community contributes to that.

To my knowledge Magic only went through one period of time where people stopped playing (Kamigawa block). Actually I would disagree with you on your hobby point. I have seen (unfortunately so) people who struggle to keep their hobby in their life. Any card game can have positive benefits. Having fun with people is what games are about.  I think that redemption and every other card game has that benefit. The reason you don't see a huge decline in Redemption at any point is you only lose a few players at any one moment. There is not masses of people who are playing to show and dramatic signs of people quitting the game.

To me redemption will always be a game. It is a fun game and there is much less competition. It provides me with no benefits that other games did not provide.

That's fine for you Deist, but the large majority of people here would state that one of the defining reasons they play Redemption is because it provides Spiritual context and tends to increase their knowledge of the Bible. It's been stated numerous times by numerous people to be the case. That's why they don't give it up until absolutely necessary. It's not just a hobby, it's spiritual training to them.