Author Topic: All About Baseball! (Read 27372 times)

ejberkenpas22 · « **on:** August 21, 2009, 11:38:05 PM »

There have got to be some baseball fans in here! I love sports forums and since this is in off topic it should be legitimate to post! It is fun talking sports with friends. So I am a Yankee fan and am pretty excited this year that they finally are showing signs of being able to go the distance. And it is beautiful seeing them sweep the red sox and then beat them 20-11 in Fenway!

Lawfuldog · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2009, 11:39:12 PM »

I don't post as much as I used to, but I feel like I have to post in this thread.

GO RED SOX.

YANKEES ARE TERRIBLE.

End of post.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2009, 11:43:13 PM »

Haha...well if the Red Sox were in the Yanks situation and yanks in the Red Sox i'd say the Red Sox stink even though I know full well they were better...but now the Bo-sox are all old and decrepit and the Yankees are younger and talented. The two teams swapped and now hopefully the yankees can bring home a couple pennants while they have the roster they have. Watch out for the buccos though! 6 years from now they could be a competitor! Maybe even have a winning season! Dare to dream!

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2009, 11:53:30 PM »

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This thread is provocative.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2009, 11:54:35 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on August 21, 2009, 11:53:30 PM

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This thread is provocative.

Seriously?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2009, 11:55:49 PM »

You're a teenager and you're taking a math teacher seriously?

I wish you were in my class.

New Raven BR · « **Reply #6 on:** August 21, 2009, 11:56:14 PM »

YANKEES STINK!!!
GO BOSTON RED SOX!!!

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2009, 11:59:02 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on August 21, 2009, 11:55:49 PM

You're a teenager and you're taking a math teacher seriously?

I wish you were in my class.

Haha...well if it were anything like math classes I had in HS i wouldn't do any of the homework haha. It was too much work for HS. And as it turns out I made the right decision.

Quote from: New Raven BR on August 21, 2009, 11:56:14 PM

YANKEES STINK!!!
GO BOSTON RED SOX!!!

And please keep this to a discussion not just close minded statements that you clearly know are not true. WHY do the yankees stink?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #8 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:01:43 AM »

Here are my random statements....

MAUER WILL WIN MVP. NOONE ELSE IS EVEN CLOSE.

GO TWINS.

WE HAZ THE BEST 3-4 HITTERS IN THE GAME.
Tex and Arod haz nothin
Utley and Howard both fail
Pujols don't work, son

WE HAZ THE BEST CLOSER
Paps aint nuttin' compared to Nathan
Mo is overrated

CARLOS GOMEZ IS THE FASTEST RUNNER IN THE GAME. TOO BAD HE JUST CAN'T GET ON BASE

On a side note, I know why the Red Sox have lost the last million games to the Yankees. After Ortiz was connected to roids the Yankees realized the Sox's championship was tainted, so Ruth won't let them win for another 86 years.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #9 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:09:13 AM »

FWIW, I am a Red Sox fan, but I am not a Yankees hater. Right now I think the last five games between the Sox and Yanks is "reaping what we sowed" when Sox fans were getting arrogant about winning every game this year against the Yanks prior to the All-Star break. Sometimes I wish Red Sox Nation would cool off the anti-Yankee propaganda. I'm old enough to remember 1978. Sitting in the bleachers of Fenway park watching a great year crumble away was no fun. But the lesson to be learned is that things change quickly, and no lead is big enough.

With that said, though, I know the Red Sox will bounce back. We needed a reality slap to get us refocused. Adding Billy Wagner to the bullpen will be a plus.

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on August 22, 2009, 12:01:43 AM

MAUER WILL WIN MVP. NOONE ELSE IS EVEN CLOSE.

That will depend on how the team finishes. Guys like Evan Longoria could still be in contention if their team finishes strong.

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on August 22, 2009, 12:01:43 AM

On a side note, I know why the Red Sox have lost the last million games to the Yankees. After Ortiz was connected to roids the Yankees realized the Sox's championship was tainted, so Ruth won't let them win for another 86 years.

By this logic, every championship over the last 20 years is "tainted." Besides, Ortiz and Manny were only part of the puzzle. Curt Schilling's bloody sock won the first championship in 2004, and we all know he didn't use any "medications" - not even a bandaid.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:09:37 AM »

Mauer and Morneau are GREAT! Morneau got robbed of a starting all-star job. He was clearly the best 1B in the American League at the time. Teixeira has certainly made a statement since then though and A-Rod is one the the best batters to ever play the game. Matsui is solid when healthy and Posada is just the man. CC is comfortable now with the system and burnett is coming into his own and you gotta love Pettite pitching well. Mariano Rivera is the best closer in the game...Nathan comes in CLOSE CLOSE second. Papelbon is a jerk. Twins should be doing a lot better. You look at their lineup compared to the Tigers and White Sox then you would think the Twins would be in 1st. But they are hurting from Liriano's inability to come back from injury. Scott Baker is starting to pick it up and the loss of Garza and Johan two years ago hurt.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #11 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:11:48 AM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 22, 2009, 12:09:37 AM

Papelbon is a jerk.

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 21, 2009, 11:59:02 PM

And please keep this to a discussion not just close minded statements that you clearly know are not true.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:13:16 AM »

Papelbon has a hot head...after his first year when he was realized to be a dominant starter did he not throw a fit that he was made into a starter and he whined saying he was too good for just a closing job.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #13 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:16:06 AM »

Hmmmm.....so you don't see your bias. Either you can avoid the negativity or you cannot. Choose one, and don't get upset when others choose the same.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #14 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:16:33 AM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on August 22, 2009, 12:09:13 AM

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on August 22, 2009, 12:01:43 AM
MAUER WILL WIN MVP. NOONE ELSE IS EVEN CLOSE.

That will depend on how the team finishes. Guys like Evan Longoria could still be in contention if their team finishes strong.

Usually the MVP comes from a team in the play offs, but that is never the case if your having a season like Mauer. Mauer is flirting with a .400 BA, .650 SLG, 191 OPS+ (which are both UNHEARD OF, those are TED WILLIAMS quality, who is within the top 3 hitters of all time). Even if the rays win it all, Mauer and Pujols will get the MVP unless Longoria/Fielder bat .600 and slug .750 until the end of the season, and even then Mauer still has the positional advantage....

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on August 22, 2009, 12:09:13 AM

By this logic, every championship over the last 20 years is "tainted." Besides, Ortiz and Manny were only part of the puzzle. Curt Schilling's bloody sock won the first championship in 2004, and we all know he didn't use any "medications" - not even a bandaid.

That was a joke...

. I actually don't feel any championship is tainted, all the best players have always cheated. Walter Johnson used a spit ball, Babe Ruth corked bats, Hank Aaron took amphetamines, etc.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:21:15 AM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on August 22, 2009, 12:16:06 AM

Hmmmm.....so you don't see your bias. Either you can avoid the negativity or you cannot. Choose one, and don't get upset when others choose the same.

I was annoyed at his closed minded comment saying Yankees stink and Red Sox rule...that is a pointless and annoying thing to say. I elaborated and gave facts about Papelbon. those are two different things.

And yes Mauer if he keeps this up will definitely be discussed for MVP but look atthe other guys in contention...how bout Teixeira having a great year, Youkilis if he heats up could pose great numbers...Longoria is definitely a highly probable recipient...even someone like Morales on the Angels who has single handedly kept them in contention in the absence of Hunter and Guerrero.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #16 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:26:28 AM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 22, 2009, 12:21:15 AM

And yes Mauer if he keeps this up will definitely be discussed for MVP but look atthe other guys in contention...how bout Teixeira having a great year, Youkilis if he heats up could pose great numbers...Longoria is definitely a highly probable recipient...even someone like Morales on the Angels who has single handedly kept them in contention in the absence of Hunter and Guerrero.

Mauer
380 BA
450 OBP
650 SLG
191 OPS+
Plays the most valuable non-pitching position
extra points for a very strong arm, hampers base running

Longoria
275 BA (105 below Mauer!)
360 OBP (90 below Mauer)
520 SLG (130 below Mauer!)
126 OPS+ (65 below Mauer!)
Plays a mid-value non pitching position

Youkilis
305 BA (75 below Mauer!)
420 OBP (30 below Mauer!)
550 SLG (100 below Mauer!)
146 OPS+ (45 below Mauer!)
extra points for playing multiple positions
loses points for being owned by Porcello

Texiera
280 BA (100 lower than Mauer!)
380 OBP (70 lower than Mauer)
560 SLG (90 below Mauer, and he plays in Yankee Stadium! A single in the metrodome can be a HR in the stadium)
142 OPS+ (49 below Mauer!)
Plays the least valuable position

I'll post the other stats in a sec. My hand are cold so I'm typing slowly

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #17 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:26:38 AM »

Mauer is MVP. He's a catcher. He's currently .30 up on the best AVG in a season for a catcher. If he does not win, it's a travesty.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:30:15 AM »

But you know how sports go...you can be as good as you want but if your team doesn't do anything then you aren't gonna be considered. Unless the Twins make a decent run he won't get MVP.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #19 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:31:42 AM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 22, 2009, 12:30:15 AM

But you know how sports go...you can be as good as you want but if your team doesn't do anything then you aren't gonna be considered. Unless the Twins make a decent run he won't get MVP.

The Twins could lose every game from now till the end of the season, and if Mauer continues his pace will win it. Easily.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #20 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:32:57 AM »

I posted some stats of your other possible contenders. Mauer is clearly dominant, Youkilis coming in second.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:38:33 AM »

That is a big if for Mauer...he has that 2 month long break going for him because most catchers around this time are tired and their batting is struggling...but Mauer has a whole 2 months on them but still will tire out eventually...other fielders don't tire as quickly. I bet it comes down to Longoria, Tex, and Youkilis. NL will be Pujols hands down.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #22 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:39:57 AM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 22, 2009, 12:21:15 AM

I elaborated and gave facts about Papelbon. those are two different things.

You'll have to cite those "facts." Indeed any rookie pitcher who was a lifelong starter will question being forced into a closer. And "hothead" could easily be equated with "excitable," much like Joba Chamberlin. Most hotheads don't do Irish step dancing during rain delays.

With regard to Mauer, if he can keep up his current pace, then I would say there is no question. Keeping an average that high will be tough, though. Several hitters have flirted with .400, but 163 games are alot. I remember George Brett's .390 and Tony Gwynn's .394. Brett did win the MVP that year, but the Royals were Division Champs and went to the World Series.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #23 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:40:41 AM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 22, 2009, 12:38:33 AM

That is a big if for Mauer...he has that 2 month long break going for him because most catchers around this time are tired and their batting is struggling...but Mauer has a whole 2 months on them

Where are the stats that say this? I'm not sure about this, because I remember Bert Blyleven (Twin's announcer, former pitcher) mentioning that Mauer heated up in the second half last season. I just don't have the '08 Twin SS, so I can't check.

+++++ The Twins have an easier schedule the second half.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #24 on:** August 22, 2009, 12:42:54 AM »

Mauer is certainly on fire right now.

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