Author Topic: All About Baseball! (Read 27622 times)

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #50 on:** August 22, 2009, 11:34:09 PM »

For a player as clutch as he is, yes it is. If he were a yankee he'd have 100. probably

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 22, 2009, 11:35:05 PM »

To change the subject, who do you think is the biggest surprise of the year? The comeback player of the year?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #52 on:** August 22, 2009, 11:39:23 PM »

Brett Farve imo.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #53 on:** August 22, 2009, 11:40:31 PM »

I guess I'll just post all of my awards...

AL
MVP: Joe Mauer. Runner Up: Tex
Cy Young: Beckett. Runner Up: Verlander
Rookie: Beckham. Runner up: ~~Andrus~~ Changed mine mind, Romero is teh runner up!
Comeback: Jarrod Washburn

NL
MVP: Pujols. Runner Up: Hanley
Cy Young: The Freak. Runner Up: Haren
Rookie: Happ. Runner Up: Rasmus
Comeback: Carpenter

Biggest player surprise: Mauer
Biggest moment surprise: Porcello and Youk

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #54 on:** August 22, 2009, 11:52:20 PM »

AL
MVP: Tex. Runner up: Mauer
Cy Young: Greinke. Runner up: King Felix
Rookie: Beckham. Runner up: ~~Callaspo~~ He is not a rookie...I guess andrus. AL rookies are weak.
Comeback: Jim Thome or Jerrod Washburn

NL
MVP: Pujols. Runner up: Hanley or Fielder
Cy Young: Lincecum. Runner up: Carpenter
Rookie: Sandoval. Runner up: ~~Happ~~ Tommy Hanson for runner up
Comeback: Carpenter

Biggest Surprise: A tie between Ben Zobrist and Jason Bartlett.
Funniest Monent: Victorino getting doused in beer while making a routine putout.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #55 on:** August 23, 2009, 12:06:10 AM »

I found the video of my favorite moment surprise, Youk getting owned by a 20 year old kid

EDIT: Link removed, because I just realized the advertisement on the side was kind of naughty :3

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 23, 2009, 12:12:46 AM »

yeah i watched that whole thing on ESPN...that was pretty awesome!

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #57 on:** August 23, 2009, 02:03:05 AM »

As promised earlier, here are some stats/abbreviations everyone should know so no one gets confused.

Stats
BA/AVG
Stands for batting average.
It's formula is Hits / At Bats
It is a good to quite good comparison stat. Use it.

OBP
Stands for on base percentage.
It's formula is (Hits + Walks + Hit by Pitch) / (At Bats + Walks + Hit by Pitch + Sacrifice Flies)
It is a good to quite good comparison stat. Use it

SLG
Stands for slugging. It measures your average base per at bat.
It's formula is ([Singles] + [Doubles x 2] + [Triples x 3] + [Home Runs x 4])/At Bats
It is a decent to good comparison stat. Use it in some scenarios.

OPS
Stands for On-Base plus Slugging. It measures your overall performance.
It's formula is On-Base Percentage + Slugging percentage
It is a good to quite good comparison. Do NOT use it.

OPS+
Stands for On-Base plus Slugging adjusted. It measures your overall performance and adjusts it per your ball park.
It's formula is 100 * (On-base percentage / league on base percentage + Slugging percentage / league slugging percentage-1)
It is the best offensive stat for comparison. USE IT OFTEN.

RBI
Stands for run(s) batted in.
Every time to drive in a run, you gain 1 RBI (unless there is an error or you hit into a double play)
It is the worst offensive stat for comparison. Never use it.

HR
Stands for Home Run.
Every time your able to clear all 4 bases on one play without an out or error, you gain one home run.
It is a terrible offensive stat used for comparison. Only use it in very rare scenarios.

ERA
Stands for Earned Run Average
It's formula 9 * Earned Runs / Innings Pitched
It is an ok stat for comparison. Don't use it.

ERA+
Stands for adjusted Earned run average.
It's formula is 100 * (League Era / ERA).
It is a good stat for comparison. Use it.

WHIP
Stands for Walks and hits per inning pitched
It's formula is (Walks + Hits) / Innings Pitched
It is a very good stat for comparison. Use it.

UZR
Stands for Ultimate Zone Rating
It is the number of runs an outfielder saves/costs a team compared to your average player of that position.
It is the best defensive stat for comparison. Use it.

Other terms you should know
RISP
Stands for Runners in scoring position.
Plate appearences with runners on second or third base.

SB
Stands for stolen base

CS
Stands for Caught Stealing.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 23, 2009, 09:22:02 AM »

That was a good post...I have always wondered how Slugging %age was calculated!

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #59 on:** August 23, 2009, 09:27:21 AM »

And do you really think Romero is having that great a year to make him an AL Rookie of the Year? He was doing alright until he got hurt and now he is just awful. In 20 games started, he has given up 126 runs and walked 50 batters! That is horrible! His best statistic is K's. 7 in 125 1/3 IP. Andrus was a good pick. I need to make an edit of Callaspo though...I thought he was a rook.

Gil Galad Elven King *Generic · « **Reply #60 on:** August 23, 2009, 10:05:58 AM »

I love baseball and have always been a braves fan, but I also like the tigers and any team that pujols is on. I've never been a big fan of the yankees or the red sox, but I will say the yankees do seem to have a lot of class, and I respect that.

Now, I've been out of the loop for a while and haven't watched a game in probably two years (mostly because I don't have cable) but you guys got me wanting to get back into it! Also, long before I even knew about Redemption, I was (and still am) an avid baseball card collector. I'm gonna have to go pull out all my cards now, and try to find someone to go watch a game with!

STAMP · « **Reply #61 on:** August 23, 2009, 12:38:38 PM »

Here is a good analysis article on Mauer and Texiera:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9949322/Mauer-gets-the-nod-in-AL-MVP-voting

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #62 on:** August 23, 2009, 02:40:24 PM »

Hmm, lets start a new discussion subject...

.

Do you think the draft system needs changing? Steven Strasburg was payed ~~$15 million~~ Nevermind, he was signed to a $15 contract. His bonus was 7.5 millionbefore he even picked up a bat for any level of baseball above high school. Should they add a cap like the NFL?

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #63 on:** August 23, 2009, 02:57:31 PM »

You mean the kind of cap where Stafford gets 45 million guranteed?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #64 on:** August 23, 2009, 03:00:20 PM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 23, 2009, 02:57:31 PM

You mean the kind of cap where Stafford gets 45 million guranteed?

No, change it to one of the other systems. The NHL has caps the team is allowed to offer the draftee. I'd like to see that, and I'd like the amount you can offer be fairly low...

I just don't like the idea of a kid getting payed millions of dollars before they play.

EDIT: I have a new favorite moment! Unassisted triple play! Link: http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=6256159

coltsboy29 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 23, 2009, 07:14:04 PM »

I know!

I saw that and was completely amazed! First time in 82 years it has ended a game and only the second in history.

Oh and... GO CUBS! Maybe we can win once a month.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #66 on:** August 23, 2009, 09:48:32 PM »

Quote from: STAMP on August 23, 2009, 12:38:38 PM

Here is a good analysis article on Mauer and Texiera:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9949322/Mauer-gets-the-nod-in-AL-MVP-voting

Thanks for that article! I'm glad there was the stats with runners in there, I was having trouble finding them.

Now, Ej, after reading that article do you still think RBI's are a good measure of clutch

? Mauer has less RBI's yet the stats show he is dominanting (over a 100 point lead) Tex with RISP, Runners on, and RISP with 2 outs.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 23, 2009, 10:44:46 PM »

Mauer missed a large part of the first half of the season. His RBI's would be higher had he played those games. So yes RBI's still shows clutch.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 23, 2009, 10:54:29 PM »

Oh and Teixeira was cold as ice in that time Mauer was out and was batting below .200 . Once he got comfortable with the new team he exploded. I bet if you take both of their stats from the time Mauer came back to now their averages would be a lot close in all those situations.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #69 on:** August 23, 2009, 10:57:35 PM »

So far Mauer has played in 98 games. He has 77 RBI's. That is one RBI every 1.27 (repeating) games.

Tex has played in 119 games and has hit 92 RBI's. That is one RBI every 1.294 games.

Even if Mauer joined earlier, he would still have less RBI's than Tex. Yet, the BA with RISP show Mauer is a better clutch hitter.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #70 on:** August 23, 2009, 10:59:30 PM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 23, 2009, 10:54:29 PM

Oh and Teixeira was cold as ice in that time Mauer was out and was batting below .200 . Once he got comfortable with the new team he exploded. I bet if you take both of their stats from the time Mauer came back to now their averages would be a lot close in all those situations.

Mauer has had cold streaks too, son. Mauer went through a massive cold streak with 2 hits after the ASB. Also, the ability to bounce back defines a player.

At this point I think you know I'm right and you just don't want to realize it.

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #71 on:** August 23, 2009, 11:07:02 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on August 23, 2009, 10:59:30 PM

At this point I think you know I'm right and you just don't want to realize it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...funny.

It wasn't until May 13th when Tex finally started hitting. Mauer didn't have a month+ long cold streak. I wish there was an easy way to calculate tex's avg since May 13. I bet its about .320 at least. He hsa 75 RBI's since then. I understand you can't ignore his first month but you can factor in that Tex has to get used to new teammates and a new team and Mauer had none of that to deal with. He came in comfortable. Tex didn't play well his first month or so with LAA. And yes the ability to bounce back defines a player and look how Tex bounced back from his month+ long cold streak...REAL WELL!

Kingsman08 · « **Reply #72 on:** August 23, 2009, 11:10:59 PM »

GO DODGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ejberkenpas22 · « **Reply #73 on:** August 23, 2009, 11:17:35 PM »

The Dodgers are a sweet team...i plan on going to a Pirate game when they play the Dodgers. They got an exciting lineup with Manny Ethier Loney and Kemp...not to mention Furcal who is better than this season seems to suggest. Also they got great young pitching in Billingsley and Kershaw! Definitely the sweetest team in the NL!

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #74 on:** August 23, 2009, 11:26:42 PM »

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 23, 2009, 11:07:02 PM

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on August 23, 2009, 10:59:30 PM

At this point I think you know I'm right and you just don't want to realize it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...funny.

I've provided example after example of why RBI are an awful stat that shouldn't be considered, and instead of agreeing or proving me wrong your trying to throw in variables to attempt to disprove me. Now, answer me this. Who will have more RBI's: Barry Bonds (in his best season) who has 0 at bats with RISP, or some mid-tier hitter who has 200 at bats with RISP. Obviously this is exaggerated, but the same proves true to smaller differences. RBI's ARE THE WORST STAT. PERIOD.

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 23, 2009, 11:07:02 PM

It wasn't until May 13th when Tex finally started hitting. Mauer didn't have a month+ long cold streak. I wish there was an easy way to calculate tex's avg since May 13. I bet its about .320 at least. He hsa 75 RBI's since then.

For RBI's
During his so called "cold streak" he knocked in 19 RBIs in 34 games. That is 1 RBI every 1.78 games, .49 lower than his current ratio. His cold streak cost him 6 RBIs. Yes, his cold streak only costed him 6 RBI's.

For Average
He was batting .202 during his cold streak. 23 hits in 114 at bats. Since then, he as 112 hits in 335 at bats. That is batting about .335, NOWHERE CLOSE TO MAUER. So, even if Tex didn't start out weak (which he did, and you can't disregard that), he would still be trailing Mauer by a massive amount.

Quote from: ejberkenpas22 on August 23, 2009, 11:07:02 PM

I understand you can't ignore his first month but you can factor in that Tex has to get used to new teammates and a new team and Mauer had none of that to deal with. He came in comfortable. Tex didn't play well his first month or so with LAA. And yes the ability to bounce back defines a player and look how Tex bounced back from his month+ long cold streak...REAL WELL!

Your teammates don't affect your hitting, you do. Infact, Tex should have been hitting higher because he moved to a more hitter friendly park. Also, LOL at the Mauer comment. Mauer came in after surgery, he had a much less recent practice than Tex, and he was having back issues.

Now, tell me why you think RBI shows clutchness better than BA with RISP.

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