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I for one have learned a several very valuable lessons like... T
he REG is irrelevant
Play as's don't change abilities (except when they do)
AoCP has no reference so it is a different card from AoC
And moderators can't handle logic and snarky comments 

i find it amusing the amount of censorship that goes on around here just to silence those that do not think with the grain...yet no action is done to those that hold higher positions and have no proper rebuttal than to reply with highly unnecessary snarky remarks. it reminds me of v for vendetta.

1 - I didn't participate in the Matthew vs AoCP thread.  I didn't lock it.  I didn't do anything to any posts there.  I don't have strong feelings about the issue one way or the other at this point.

2 - I did read the thread, and Clift, I did not find your posts there to be inappropriate.  I did find some of the other posts in the thread to be either spam or disrespectful, and therefore, I'm not surprised that it was locked (especially considering it was a ruling thread that had already received an official ruling).

3 - JSB, I know that we've had a lot of disagreements lately on the forum, so I hate to start another one.  However, your posts on the original thread as well as this one are inappropriate and inaccurate.  The general trend of your posts being critical, sarcastic, insulting, etc. is really getting old.  Are you trying to be so offensive, or are you really unaware of how your posts come across?

4 - MKC, your posts go against the grain on a fairly regular basis, and you're still here.  Censorship does not come from differences of opinion, but rather when a thread derails into inappropriate or disrespectful ways.

1 - I didn't participate in the Matthew vs AoCP thread.  I didn't lock it.  I didn't do anything to any posts there.  I don't have strong feelings about the issue one way or the other at this point.

2 - I did read the thread, and Clift, I did not find your posts there to be inappropriate.  I did find some of the other posts in the thread to be either spam or disrespectful, and therefore, I'm not surprised that it was locked (especially considering it was a ruling thread that had already received an official ruling).

3 - JSB, I know that we've had a lot of disagreements lately on the forum, so I hate to start another one.  However, your posts on the original thread as well as this one are inappropriate and inaccurate.  The general trend of your posts being critical, sarcastic, insulting, etc. is really getting old.  Are you trying to be so offensive, or are you really unaware of how your posts come across?

4 - MKC, your posts go against the grain on a fairly regular basis, and you're still here.  Censorship does not come from differences of opinion, but rather when a thread derails into inappropriate or disrespectful ways.

im sure many consider this highly biased because, after all, you are an elder.

Quote from: Master KChief on August 23, 2010, 01:53:20 AM

i find it amusing the amount of censorship that goes on around here just to silence those that do not think with the grain...yet no action is done to those that hold higher positions and have no proper rebuttal than to reply with highly unnecessary snarky remarks. it reminds me of v for vendetta.

I find it equally amusing - if not more so - that you cannot register this complaint without distorting the issue to make it appear as though your remarks are wholly appropriate and innocuous...

i belive my statements were appropriate and harmless. others felt the same way. who are the only people that dont? oh, thats right, the elders/mods/people in power...*cough cough bias*

while your tyrant oppressors have no intelligent rejoinder to your noble efforts to benefit society.

no need to be a drama queen.

That doesn't fly very well when someone takes the time to speak directly to your accusations, only to have you dismiss his entire post...

the post was downright rude and condescending. no one liked it. of course its going to get dismissed and -1'd to oblivion.

and fling another accusation at him based on a position of authority he has only held for the last few months...

actually, if you read closely, the accusation is directed at whoever did the censoring.

Except Mark's response was not as such and seems only to have one -1 attached to it.  I won't presume the lone offended party but I have my guesses.

This is blatantly false.  You responded to Mark's post and specifically said "YOU".  Mark specifically stated in his post that he did not alter any of the posts in the thread in question.  So either you are lying or you are accusing Mark of lying.

...who said anything about mark? since when has a single -1 ever correlated on a level of RED standards? read some more.

so i guess everyone here is aggrivated?

Quote from: Master KChief on August 23, 2010, 08:48:14 AM

Quote from: The Schaef on August 23, 2010, 08:44:21 AM

Except Mark's response was not as such and seems only to have one -1 attached to it.  I won't presume the lone offended party but I have my guesses.

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This is blatantly false.  You responded to Mark's post and specifically said "YOU".  Mark specifically stated in his post that he did not alter any of the posts in the thread in question.  So either you are lying or you are accusing Mark of lying.

...who said anything about mark? since when has a single -1 ever correlated on a level of RED standards? read some more.

Um I take offense. But I believe speaking one's mind is not wrong...at all.

hey, you have set the bar for the system. take it as a compliment!

If no one has realized yet, it is spelled aggravated.

Thank you. I was getting aggravated with the spelling until now.

So I'm just wondering why no one is complaining that Samson (Promo) can't make Sword Against Sword have Cannot be Negated status. It's the same issue. That said, the REG is not perfect. Some parts of it do need to be interpreted, and some parts need to be disregarded as errors. That's why we have these boards. But there are a few principles that should be followed when reading the REG:

-Play As does not change the ability, or any words on the card. A Play As only spells out special abilities in current wording, or clarifies what some confusing/poorly worded cards actually do. If a Play As is written so as to change the ability, or add anything to what is written on the card, it should be retermed errata. I know that Mike, Tim, and any other playtester/elder would appreciate others pointing out where Play As should be removed/retermed.

-Errata can/does change the ability, and the text on the card. Errata is only given when a card is decided to be too powerful as written (Holy Grail, A New Beginning) or is biblically inaccurate (King Ahaz as a Judean King when his identifier says Israelite King) or doesn't make any sense as written (A Child is Born cannot not be negated). In cases of errata, the text written in the card is disregarded, and the text written in the errata is official. Adding a reference to a card WOULD be errata, because it is changing official text of a card. None of the reference-less promos have errata, and as Schaef pointed out with the Seeker of the Lost example, misreferencing has not been reason enough for Rob to issue errata, so it is likely that missing references won't be either. But if Rob does decide to do that, then and only then will it be official

-Always feel free to point out inconsistencies/apparent errors in the REG, the rulebook, the boards, etc. Yes, the elders were appointed to be able to make rulings, and Mike B. was appointed to keep the REG. But all of us are human, we make mistakes, and the more player involvement we can encourage, the better.

Seems like if people are getting all tore up about what's be'n said on a Christian Card Game Forum, and we're not discussing the things of God, there's a bigger problem, than just the comments on the forums that are bothering individuals.

Daniel

 

p.s. comma splices for everyone.

At MKC, yes. At Mods, No, cept maybe Schaef cuz be keeps taking MKC's bait.

I'm just making the observation that nobody is buying his tired "victim" act.

AoCp sappin' my senterritory.