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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2010, 07:18:23 PM »
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Wait, there's an Open Discussion board? Where?
How can this message board be taken seriously if even the most mature members such as YMT don't know about the Open Discussion forum?!
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2010, 07:34:37 PM »
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Wait, there's an Open Discussion board? Where?
How can this message board be taken seriously if even the most mature members such as YMT don't know about the Open Discussion forum?!

But see that's the thing... You and me haven't seen this "Mystery OD Board" so I wonder if it even exists  :laugh:.  It's a conspiracy I tell you! A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!  ;D
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2010, 07:36:57 PM »
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Wait, there's an Open Discussion board? Where?
How can this message board be taken seriously if even the most mature members such as YMT don't know about the Open Discussion forum?!

But see that's the thing... You and me haven't seen this "Mystery OD Board" so I wonder if it even exists  :laugh:.  It's a conspiracy I tell you! A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!  ;D
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2010, 07:44:18 PM »
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Yes, but there's another hidden board that you find out about only when you've joined OD.  And this one requires maturity and "protection cards".
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2010, 08:10:05 PM »
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2010, 08:11:31 PM »
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2010, 08:34:25 PM »
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Wait, there's an Open Discussion board? Where?
How can this message board be taken seriously if even the most mature members such as YMT don't know about the Open Discussion forum?!
Frankly, it can be taken seriously because of the lack of spam on the OD which, IMO, is refreshing.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2010, 08:35:00 PM »
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this is a christian card game not a democracy so you need to let it be and grow up let the judges and rulings be grow up and end this petition delete it geez
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2010, 08:42:27 PM »
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AngelFreak: You might want to tone it down a bit.  crustpope is entitled to his opinion, and voicing it this way is perfectly allowable.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2010, 08:59:00 PM »
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this is a christian card game not a democracy so you need to let it be and grow up let the judges and rulings be grow up and end this petition delete it geez
this is a public message boards not your website so you need to act like a Christian and grow up let other people opinions be grow up and edit your post delete it geez
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2010, 09:06:40 PM »
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crustpope is entitled to his opinion, and voicing it this way is perfectly allowable.

Allowable? Who are you kidding? Haven't you noticed that Crustpope hasn't posted in a while? That's because an unmarked van pulled up next to him while he was walking. Three masked men jumped out of the van, put a dark hood over his head and dragged him into the van. He has not been seen since.

One of the masked men was not wearing pants.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2010, 09:09:19 PM »
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this is a christian card game not a democracy so you need to let it be and grow up let the judges and rulings be grow up and end this petition delete it geez
this is a public message boards not your website so you need to act like a Christian and grow up let other people opinions be grow up and edit your post delete it geez
But also make sure not to stoop to their level.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2010, 09:22:47 PM »
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i believe its for members 18 and older. and no, you dont get in automatically based on the age in your profile.
Oh yeah? Well, I started my own secret section of the boards only for cool people, and you're not invited! >:(
Dude, this new section is awesome! Everyone on it just got free ice cream vouchers for Baskin Robins!
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2010, 09:25:05 PM »
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and fuzzy kittens! 
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2010, 09:25:44 PM »
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this is a christian card game not a democracy so you need to let it be and grow up let the judges and rulings be grow up and end this petition delete it geez

Ok, i may have to because the spam content of this thread is getting a bit too much.  

One of the masked men was not wearing pants.

Yes, Eric "I was't wearing any pants when I kidnapped crustpope" Largent was one of the assailants.  I dont know who the other two were but one had large hands and smelled of herring and the other was a cheeky lad with orange hair sticking out from behind the ski mask.

I got away by boring them to death when I began to talk about this thread
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2010, 09:30:08 PM »
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They're not done yet. They'll be back. This could be a recurring problem, so it may be best for you to stay off the highway.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2010, 09:36:43 PM »
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Ooops, forgot to mention in my last post (too busy spamming), add my name to the petition-that-isn't-a-petition.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2010, 09:41:35 PM »
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They're not done yet. They'll be back. This could be a recurring problem, so it may be best for you to stay off the highway.
Pants, however, are still optional.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2010, 11:32:39 PM »
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Gosh I just love being ignored so....

I will say it once more every thing in that petition is how it is!  Most of the time.
I have a few suggestions for Redemption.

1. Redemption needs a Ruling Council (aka PTB).  These people need to be clearly identified (an given a formal and official position) and posted so that any ruling questions can be sent to them.  To often on these boards people make decisons based on ruling they believe to be true only to find out that they are not at a later date.
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a) All major ruling changes will be announced before Nationals and will take effect following nationals for the next tournament season.
b) Emergency Rulings can be used but they are reserved only for game breaking combinations that are a result of unanticipated card combinations that would most likely involve previously released cards as they are integrated with the newest set.  These Emergency rulings can be made before the start of MAJOR tournament season. (Major tournament season is defined as beginning with the first state tournement and ending at Nationals)
c) Decks during the Major tournament season can only be undone by a misunderstanding on the part of the deck owner of how the rules work.  No erattas should be made to change the way a card is played until after Nationals.

I thought it was this way....
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2010, 12:00:32 AM »
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You were ignored because you were being silly. But since you insist on acknowledgment:

1. Sir Nobody and the Playtesters do not have rubber-stamp powers.
2. It's Bryon
3. It's Bryon, Rob, and Mike
4. Thought wrong. If it was that way, why would be be making a post asking for it to be that way?
6. An ellipsis has three periods, not four.
7. "Brian and Sir nobody and the play testers" is not a sentence. The preceding period should have been a colon for it to be remotely correct.
8. Both words are capitalized in "Sir Nobody."
9. There is no five. Woah, blew your mind!
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2010, 12:06:18 AM »
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2010, 07:33:39 AM »
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Gosh I just love being ignored so....

I will say it once more every thing in that petition is how it is!  Most of the time.
I have a few suggestions for Redemption.

1. Redemption needs a Ruling Council (aka PTB).  These people need to be clearly identified (an given a formal and official position) and posted so that any ruling questions can be sent to them.  To often on these boards people make decisons based on ruling they believe to be true only to find out that they are not at a later date.
We do. Brian and Sir nobody and the play testers.

Even if it were this way...who are these playtesters?  This is some nebulous term to include a group of people who few people can identify.  I cant tell you all the playtesters and I have been playing since 2004.  In fact, I can guess on several of them but I only knew 2 of them and one of them has since died.  Only once have I been involved in a game that had playtest cards.  it was fun and I got spanked but we need a group of people to focus on ruling, establishing erattas, and focusing on these details and we should all know who they are so that we can go to them if we have a problem that needs an official ruling on it.  The only person I know who are in this group for a fact are Rob, Bryon and Mike, Mike is never on, Rob is easy to get a hold of but he never makes rulings publicly, only Bryon makes rulings publicly, but even he misses things...like the Highway ruling which was somethign that should have been done along time ago.

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a) All major ruling changes will be announced before Nationals and will take effect following nationals for the next tournament season.
b) Emergency Rulings can be used but they are reserved only for game breaking combinations that are a result of unanticipated card combinations that would most likely involve previously released cards as they are integrated with the newest set.  These Emergency rulings can be made before the start of MAJOR tournament season. (Major tournament season is defined as beginning with the first state tournement and ending at Nationals)
c) Decks during the Major tournament season can only be undone by a misunderstanding on the part of the deck owner of how the rules work.  No erattas should be made to change the way a card is played until after Nationals.

I thought it was this way....

You obvioiusly thought wrong if we are having this discussion.  Decks have been nerfed at Nats before and obviously this highway ruling has come in the middle of major tournaments.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2010, 08:02:23 AM »
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none of the playtesters outside of bryon and co. can make official rulings, so that is a moot point.
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Re: A Petition: Reccomendations for Redemption Rulings
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2010, 09:48:08 AM »
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In fact, I can guess on several of them but I only knew 2 of them and one of them has since died.

... Who died?

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The only person I know who are in this group for a fact are Rob, Bryon and Mike

Really?

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You obvioiusly thought wrong if we are having this discussion.  Decks have been nerfed at Nats before and obviously this highway ruling has come in the middle of major tournaments.

I can only think of one (infamous) instance of a rule being changed on the floor at Nats to nerf a deck, and that was a number of years ago.  Granted I wasn't judging the last two so it's not an ironclad statement, but I don't think this is the kind of thing that can be painted as a regular occurrence.

 


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