Author Topic: What characters need to be reprinted the most? (Read 14140 times)

Crashfach2002 · « **on:** April 03, 2011, 10:11:08 PM »

Because of this March Madness thread and our message at church tonight, I started wondering what really "big" characters in the bible have terrible abilities, if any abilities at all. People like Gideon, Samson, Noah, Barak are listed in the "Hall of Faith" chapter in Hebrews, but yet they are not worth playing in Redemption. So this got me wondering who everyone felt were the biggest characters in need for a more "useable" reprint? I'd like for people to PM me a top 20 list of the characters you would like to see, in the order you would prefer them! Then I will put together a top 50, or so, list depending on how many different characters I get!

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crustpope · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2011, 10:50:39 PM »

Sampson, Mary mother of Jesus, Adam, Peter, Noah

More to come

Also:

Andrew, Joseph the Carpenter, Samuel, Deborah, Gideon, Ruth, Rachel, Sarah, Abraham (make his SA useful lol),

Irish_Luck · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2011, 07:25:37 PM »

Quote from: crustpope on April 03, 2011, 10:50:39 PM

Sampson, Mary mother of Jesus, Adam, Peter, Noah

More to come

except for Mary. I would like to see a new version of Babylon the Great.

The Guardian · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2011, 08:01:40 PM »

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Abraham (make his SA useful lol)

To be fair, Abraham is a beast in Booster Draft, especially if you happen to draft an Abraham's Servant to Ur and/or Covenant with Abraham.

I think Isaiah (OT) and Mary Mother of Jesus (NT) are the top two "Need reprint" Heroes.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2011, 08:28:35 PM »

Isildur · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2011, 08:34:45 PM »

Deacons Nuff said. Even I have to admit that the current ones stink

JonathanW · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2011, 01:23:58 PM »

Jonah

SomeKittens · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2011, 01:26:38 PM »

I still would like to see a Smith Wigglesworth card.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:21:39 PM »

I would really like to see a David reprint. It'd be super powerful, and in 2/3 brigades. Green/Purple W/C prophet NEEDS to happen. That'd be so ridiculous. He wouldn't even need an ability, really.

Isaiah, Mary, Andrew (actually, he's quite good anyway...), Peter, Samuel, Deborah, Gideon, SHAMGAR, Gad, Deacons, Jonah, Ezekiel, Daniel (oh wait...), Noah, Samson, Barak, Adam, Silas, Barnabas, Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Onesimus...and I'm sure there are others.

Ironica · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:59:47 PM »

Pharoh. For being such a big character in the Moses story, why can't he do squat?

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:05:08 PM »

Quote from: Ironica on April 06, 2011, 01:59:47 PM

Pharoh. For being such a big character in the Moses story, why can't he do squat?

This was kinda my whole feeling behind this thread. I mean lets think about it. Who do most people feel the top 3 most powerful characters are in Redemption? Moses, Thaddaeus & Susanna. I personally don't feel this is right. I mean, I love finding new people in the Bible based off of this game, but why are two of the three most powerful character only people "mentioned" in the Bible? I have a hard time trying to explain to new players that the people they grew up hearing about have no true place in this game, while characters that didn't play a "real" significant role in the Bible are in the top decks.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:52:31 PM »

I like it that way. That way you learn about little known people. I bet most people couldn't name all of the disciples, but once they play a disciples deck, the most likely ones they'll forget are Judas, Andrew, and Peter (almost exactly opposite of most people).

And Moses was WAY more than mentioned. Jacob too...Job too...

CJSports · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:56:50 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 05, 2011, 04:21:39 PM

I would really like to see a David reprint. It'd be super powerful, and in 2/3 brigades. Green/Purple W/C prophet NEEDS to happen. That'd be so ridiculous. He wouldn't even need an ability, really.

I mentioned this idea on some other threads, mine went something like this.....

King David
12/12
Green/Red/White/Purple
Warrior Class/Prophet/Musician/King of Israel
Set-Aside this hero for 6 turns if Uriah or Bathsheba enters play.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:01:05 PM »

Too broken. No SA means he could be protected from Windows of Narrow Light. He needs a useless ability, like "Band to Abigail and/or Bathsheba."
Unfortunately, then everybody would cry for reprints of those cards, and then he'd be too broken once again...

Professoralstad · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:04:11 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 06, 2011, 06:01:05 PM

Too broken. No SA means he could be protected from Windows of Narrow Light. He needs a useless ability, like "Band to Abigail and/or Bathsheba."
Unfortunately, then everybody would cry for reprints of those cards, and then he'd be too broken once again...

He'd also need an ability that could negate Hidden Treasures. Especially after haha...nice try comes out this summer...

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:08:16 PM »

Negating all artifacts would be interesting...or all non-tabernacle artifacts...

Professoralstad · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:08:52 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 06, 2011, 05:52:31 PM

I like it that way. That way you learn about little known people. I bet most people couldn't name all of the disciples, but once they play a disciples deck, the most likely ones they'll forget are Judas, Andrew, and Peter (almost exactly opposite of most people).

And Moses was WAY more than mentioned. Jacob too...Job too...

I agree with this. I'd bet 9/10 God-fearing Bible-reading Christians have no idea who Ehud or Jephthah were or what they did, or that Kir was a city in the Bible. But at least 9/10 Redemption players know that. However, I do like how we are making some of the well-known Bible figures really good (like Daniel, Lazarus, Hehe...gotcha again., etc.)

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:16:59 PM »

I do not support reprints of better publicized characters because people think they should be more powerful. That doesn't make any sense to me. I would much rather have new cards utilize obsolete cards, such as the reprint of Kindness that put Good Samaritan back on the map.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:31:23 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 06, 2011, 05:52:31 PM

And Moses was WAY more than mentioned. Jacob too...Job too...

I was talking about Susanna & Thad as just being mentioned. I'm not ignorant enough to consider Moses to be "mentioned." Last time I checked Exodus is pretty much his life story, so I guess that qualifies as "mentioned."

megamanlan · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2011, 11:25:42 PM »

I think (OT) Joseph, Isaiah, Rebeckah, Saul/Paul, (OT) Saul, All the Emperors from Apsotles Set, Peter, Andrew, Servant Angel (Definately should be WC), Angel Chariots, most of the Good Kings (excluding the Kings from Theaurus and David), Pharaoh, Stronger than Men, Angelic Guidance, War in Heaven and that's just a couple of them.

CJSports · « **Reply #20 on:** April 07, 2011, 06:54:55 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on April 06, 2011, 06:01:05 PM

Too broken. No SA means he could be protected from Windows of Narrow Light. He needs a useless ability, like "Band to Abigail and/or Bathsheba."
Unfortunately, then everybody would cry for reprints of those cards, and then he'd be too broken once again...

Edit. Made him less powerful by making him have a negative ability seeing as Uriah and Bathsheba see so much play these days.

cookie monster · « **Reply #21 on:** April 17, 2011, 05:53:04 PM »

I think that they need to reprint "love"

hi123 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2011, 06:08:09 PM »

Quote from: Crashfach2002 on April 03, 2011, 10:11:08 PM

Because of this March Madness thread and our message at church tonight, I started wondering what really "big" characters in the bible have terrible abilities, if any abilities at all. People like Gideon, Samson, Noah, Barak are listed in the "Hall of Faith" chapter in Hebrews, but yet they are not worth playing in Redemption. So this got me wondering who everyone felt were the biggest characters in need for a more "useable" reprint? I'd like for people to PM me a top 20 list of the characters you would like to see, in the order you would prefer them! Then I will put together a top 50, or so, list depending on how many different characters I get!

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Heros:

Noah
Adam
Peter
Mary

EC's:

Locust from the Pit

Red · « **Reply #23 on:** April 17, 2011, 10:10:19 PM »

Megamanlan:Saul/Paul is good/played. Nero is from apostles and is played. Claudeius is played in 1-2 decks where I play so quit bagging saul/paul just cuz you think the 10th best character in the game isn't good.

Nameless · « **Reply #24 on:** April 18, 2011, 08:37:58 AM »

they should reprint ponshus piolate

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