Cactus Game Design Message Boards

Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 11:31:26 AM

Title: Voice of Glory
Post by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 11:31:26 AM
Isaiah 30:30

And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall shew the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.

3/3 White Enhancement

Interrupt the battle and discard up to x evil characters in play. Cannot be prevented.

x = the number of evil brigades in play.

I went with white since white brigade is themed around glory & majesty.

Revelation 20:11 ‘And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.’

Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Smokey on September 09, 2010, 11:31:55 AM
No.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 11:34:26 AM
No.

too op'ed?
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 09, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
No.

too op'ed?
Yes. In fact, it is so OP'ed, I would almost be inclined to say "no" as well. That's how OP'ed it is.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: uthminister [BR] on September 09, 2010, 01:02:32 PM
Probably more for your brigade choice rather than the ability since white is beastly already... :o
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on September 09, 2010, 01:03:46 PM
He is Risen is better than this... I'll let this one slide ;).
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 09, 2010, 01:10:02 PM
Zeal for the Lord is also better than this, so I guess it's okay. :P
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: stefferweffer on September 09, 2010, 01:21:44 PM
From Isaiah I'd expect it to be green anyways.  But I'm sorry, I agree it is overpowered and would go inside any deck using whatever brigade it ended up being :(

Cool verse though!
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 01:29:09 PM
What if it had no */* bonus?

White Enhancement

Interrupt the battle and discard up to x evil characters in play. Cannot be prevented.

x = the number of evil brigades in play.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 09, 2010, 01:29:21 PM
I might think it was cool if you had to discard X of opponent's characters and Y of yours. Then take off the ITB and the CBP and it actually isn't OP anymore.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 01:33:58 PM
I think it would be a shame to water down a card built around Isaiah 30:30.  It ought to be strong, but not blatantly unfair.  The card should have some edge, right?  Read the verse amigos !!!
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Daniel TS RED on September 09, 2010, 01:47:55 PM
How about make it discard one of every brigade in play.  That way you will probably have to discard one of your ECs, but if your opp is using at least 1 EC with your color then you won't.

Daniel

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: stefferweffer on September 09, 2010, 02:01:20 PM
How about make it discard one of every brigade in play.  That way you will probably have to discard one of your ECs, but if your opp is using at least 1 EC with your color then you won't.

Daniel

 :thumbup:

Don't we already have a card like this?
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Daniel TS RED on September 09, 2010, 02:02:38 PM
nope, pretty sure it's a one of a kind.  Should be printed today hopefully.

Daniel

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: browarod on September 09, 2010, 02:22:06 PM
How about make it discard one of every brigade in play.  That way you will probably have to discard one of your ECs, but if your opp is using at least 1 EC with your color then you won't.

Daniel

 :thumbup:

Don't we already have a card like this?
The closest is that one Teal enhancement that discards 2 evil characters of different brigades. I don't think there's one for all brigades. I think making it one of every brigade would make it worse, though. It would be a staple for every TGT deck due to it's territory destruction of your opponent's ECs making them easier prey for ignoring.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: BubbleBoy on September 09, 2010, 02:49:07 PM
Don't we already have a card like this?
The closest is that one Teal enhancement that discards 2 evil characters of different brigades. I don't think there's one for all brigades.
You're thinking of Zeal for the Lord. But Two Bears shuffles one card of each evil brigade in play, which I think is closer.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: stefferweffer on September 09, 2010, 04:03:17 PM
Yes, it is two bears I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 09, 2010, 06:01:04 PM
I say no just because it's so bland.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
I say no just because it's so bland.

What would your version be then?
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 06:38:26 PM
Btw, readers, if you're to shoot me down; at least give your version of the card. It's easy to scrutinize.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 09, 2010, 07:46:27 PM
Pfft. Don't be lazy and come up with your own cool ideas. This is just a cookie-cutter card slapped on a cool verse.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: stefferweffer on September 09, 2010, 08:01:05 PM
What about...

White/Purple (Majesty, Authority)

"Discard all evil banding cards in play, regardless of protection.  Cannot be negated."


To me this accomplishes the theme of the verse, that God will decimate all of those who band together to rise up against Him.

But from a game standpoint it accomplishes some things too.  1) Versatility - In type one this might work with 2 different offensive brigades.  2)  Uniqueness - In Type 2 this cannot be abused to "5 per deck" because of the two colors.  3)  Powerful (as it should be), because of the cannot be negated and also getting around protection.  4)  Situational - It is not another AOCP clone, and not a guaranteed battle winner at all.  To win a battle it would require a blocker with banding ability (who is likely banded to someone else anyway). Also important, it does not interrupt the battle, so it requires that one have inititiative to play it.  Words and Reach will help with this though (and of course ET).  5)  Fair - It will also discard your own banding evil characters in play.  

P.S.  I thought about adding Green also, but with Hidden Treasures this could be especially "mean".

Anyway, just an idea I had.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Smokey on September 09, 2010, 08:02:35 PM
I like that idea Steff.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 08:08:02 PM
I like that idea Steff.

Agreed. Well done Steff.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Deck Metrics on September 09, 2010, 08:12:21 PM
Pfft. Don't be lazy and come up with your own cool ideas. This is just a cookie-cutter card slapped on a cool verse.

Alright mini p, peace to you bro. Let's use your advice here... where's your version of the card?

By the way, your preface of "pff" communicates an attitude of disrespect, at least for me. Thought you should consider that.
Title: Re: Voice of Glory
Post by: Minister Polarius on September 09, 2010, 08:26:53 PM
Steffer came up with a bangin' good card already. My point is, don't make a lazy card idea, and then when people don't like it tell them to make their own version of it. Just make a good card yourself, then post it.
SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal