Author Topic: Theme Boost: Judges (Read 5119 times)

Minister Polarius · « **on:** September 03, 2010, 04:36:31 AM »

Samson
12/6 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"If you have at least four Judges, Negate and Discard an Evil Fortress or Occupied Site. The Special Ability of the next Evil card played becomes 'Discard all cards in battle.' unless it is a Female Evil Character."
~Same

Samuel
3/3 Gold/Green/Teal Hero
-Judge, Tabernacle High Priest, Prophet-
"Reveal opponent's hand. Set aside one card that shares a Brigade with a card found there for two turns."
~Same

Deborah
4/4 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"May band with an O.T. Warrior Class Hero to Negate Evil Weapons. Cannot be Negated if opponent has a Warrior-Class Evil Character."
~Same

Barak
6/5 Red Hero, WC
-Israelite Commander-
"If Deborah is in battle, you may play an Enhancement when blocked. Cannot be Negated if blocked by a Warrior-Class Evil Character."
~Same

Shamgar
2X/2X Gold Hero, WC
-Judge, X=Number of your Judges in play-
"If X>2, Negate the Special Abilities on all Evil Characters and Enhancements."
~Same

Jephthah
7/4 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"Once per game, if all your Heroes are Judges, you may Discard the top card of your deck to Discard two human Evil Characters in a territory regardless of Protection. Lost Souls go to play instead."
~Same

stefferweffer · « **Reply #1 on:** September 03, 2010, 07:44:34 AM »

We need a gold WC Barak too, to go with Deborah.

As powerful and annoying as evil fortresses can be sometimes, I fear that Samson's ability to discard one at will is just too powerful. He would get splashed into all the Speed and Garden Tomb decks out there. He would single-handedly destroy High Places and Raider's Camp strategies. The version I had in mind would remove one evil male Philistine from the game, but have female ECs immune to Samson.

hi123 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 03, 2010, 07:51:27 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 03, 2010, 04:36:31 AM

Samson
12/6 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"Negate and Discard an Evil Fortress or Occupied Site. The Special Ability of the next Evil card played this battle becomes 'Discard all cards in battle.' unless it is a Female Evil Character."
~Same

Samuel
3/3 Gold/Green/Teal Hero
-Judge, Tabernacle High Priest, Prophet-
"Reveal opponent's hand. Set aside one card that shares a Brigade with a card found there for two turns."
~Same

Deborah
4/4 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"May band with a Judge. Cannot be Negated if opponent has a Warrior-Class Evil Character."
~Same

Shamgar
2X/2X Gold Hero, WC
-Judge, X=Number of your Judges in play-
"If X>2, Negate the Special Abilities on all Evil Characters and Enhancements."
~Same

Jephthah
7/4 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"Once per game, you may Discard the top card of your deck to Discard two human Evil Characters in a territory regardless of Protection. Lost Souls go to play instead."
~Same

Why did you make all of them WC, except for Samuel?

And, I agree with Stefferweffer, that there needs to be a Barak too !

Josh · « **Reply #3 on:** September 03, 2010, 07:59:04 AM »

I think that Jephthah and Samson should have a requirement such as "If all your heroes are Judges" or something like that. Otherwise, they will be splashed and Judges will remain unused.

Korunks · « **Reply #4 on:** September 03, 2010, 08:04:38 AM »

Am I reading Samson correctly? After one black by an male EC he is toast. right?

stefferweffer · « **Reply #5 on:** September 03, 2010, 08:20:20 AM »

Quote from: hi123 on September 03, 2010, 07:51:27 AM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 03, 2010, 04:36:31 AM
Samson
12/6 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"Negate and Discard an Evil Fortress or Occupied Site. The Special Ability of the next Evil card played this battle becomes 'Discard all cards in battle.' unless it is a Female Evil Character."
~Same

Samuel
3/3 Gold/Green/Teal Hero
-Judge, Tabernacle High Priest, Prophet-
"Reveal opponent's hand. Set aside one card that shares a Brigade with a card found there for two turns."
~Same

Deborah
4/4 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"May band with a Judge. Cannot be Negated if opponent has a Warrior-Class Evil Character."
~Same

Shamgar
2X/2X Gold Hero, WC
-Judge, X=Number of your Judges in play-
"If X>2, Negate the Special Abilities on all Evil Characters and Enhancements."
~Same

Jephthah
7/4 Gold Hero, WC
-Judge-
"Once per game, you may Discard the top card of your deck to Discard two human Evil Characters in a territory regardless of Protection. Lost Souls go to play instead."
~Same
Why did you make all of them WC, except for Samuel?

And, I agree with Stefferweffer, that there needs to be a Barak too !

I did not notice that about Deborah being WC. I don't get the impression that she actually FOUGHT in the battle, but rather that she was present. But I agree that every other judge (within Judges that is) should be WC. Samuel is iffy, because after all he did hack Agag into pieces. Eli should definitely not be WC though, in my opinion.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #6 on:** September 03, 2010, 08:36:06 AM »

I like Shamgar. A lot. <3

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #7 on:** September 03, 2010, 12:12:20 PM »

Good call, guys. All of the Judges from Judges would be WC because even if they didn't fight directly, they were commanders of an army (which gives WC status), and Samuel never commanded an army to my knowledge. If he did, he'd be WC too. Edited.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2010, 01:57:33 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 03, 2010, 04:36:31 AM

Samuel
3/3 Gold/Green/Teal Hero
-Judge, Tabernacle High Priest, Prophet-
"Reveal opponent's hand. Set aside one card that shares a Brigade with a card found there for two turns."
~Same

That wording is a little weird. I would say "Reveal a card from opponent's hand. Set aside a card of that brigade for 2 turns."

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2010, 02:28:22 PM »

Wasn't Barak just a fighter under Deborah? Not a Judge himself?

stefferweffer · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2010, 02:50:21 PM »

Correct, he was not a judge, but I think the current version is red, and I thought most players wanted all heroes from Judges to eventually be gold. Maybe I'm wrong about that though.

Smokey · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2010, 03:02:33 PM »

Deborah and Barak cannot band... fix it.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2010, 03:18:01 PM »

Quote from: Smokey on September 03, 2010, 03:02:33 PM

Deborah and Barak cannot band... fix it.

At the moment they can. Hopefully it will change though.

I'd turn Barak back to red and make deb's ability "May band to a unique ot red wc hero to *yadda*"

stefferweffer · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2010, 03:36:34 PM »

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on September 03, 2010, 03:18:01 PM

Quote from: Smokey on September 03, 2010, 03:02:33 PM
Deborah and Barak cannot band... fix it.
At the moment they can. Hopefully it will change though.

I'd turn Barak back to red and make deb's ability "May band to a unique ot red wc hero to *yadda*"

Too specific in my opinion to limit it to red. I'd just say Unique OT WC Human hero.

Nameless · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2010, 03:38:28 PM »

that you be useful if it couldn't be neghited

Smokey · « **Reply #15 on:** September 03, 2010, 03:57:32 PM »

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on September 03, 2010, 03:18:01 PM

Quote from: Smokey on September 03, 2010, 03:02:33 PM
Deborah and Barak cannot band... fix it.
At the moment they can. Hopefully it will change though.

I'd turn Barak back to red and make deb's ability "May band to a unique ot red wc hero to *yadda*"

Barak isn't a judge.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #16 on:** September 03, 2010, 04:44:40 PM »

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on September 03, 2010, 02:28:22 PM

Wasn't Barak just a fighter under Deborah? Not a Judge himself?

Not only wasn't he a judge, but he wasn't even a very good fighter. He was such a weak general that he wouldn't even lead the troops into battle when Deborah told him that God wanted him to. And since he refused to fight unless Deborah came along, the honor of killing the enemy general went to a simple girl who lived in a tent (Jael) instead of to Barak.

Josh · « **Reply #17 on:** September 03, 2010, 10:18:45 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on September 03, 2010, 04:44:40 PM

Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on September 03, 2010, 02:28:22 PM
Wasn't Barak just a fighter under Deborah? Not a Judge himself?
Not only wasn't he a judge, but he wasn't even a very good fighter. He was such a weak general that he wouldn't even lead the troops into battle when Deborah told him that God wanted him to. And since he refused to fight unless Deborah came along, the honor of killing the enemy general went to a simple girl who lived in a tent (Jael) instead of to Barak.

Speaking of Jael, she needs reprinted too. I nominate the following, which is definitely not OP.

Jael - 5/5 Red WC hero (because a Red female WC hero would be awesome)
"Interrupt Wall of Protection. May choose a male human EC in opponent's territory to block to search deck, discard pile, or hand for Jael's Nail and add it to battle. Jael's Nail cannot be negated."

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 03, 2010, 04:36:31 AM

Samuel
3/3 Gold/Green/Teal Hero
-Judge, Tabernacle High Priest, Prophet-
"Reveal opponent's hand. Set aside one card that shares a Brigade with a card found there for two turns."
~Same

Yay Hidden Treasures + Samuel + Sammy's Sac = fun

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #18 on:** September 03, 2010, 10:32:24 PM »

Quote from: jmhartz on September 03, 2010, 10:18:45 PM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on September 03, 2010, 04:44:40 PM
Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on September 03, 2010, 02:28:22 PM
Wasn't Barak just a fighter under Deborah? Not a Judge himself?
Not only wasn't he a judge, but he wasn't even a very good fighter. He was such a weak general that he wouldn't even lead the troops into battle when Deborah told him that God wanted him to. And since he refused to fight unless Deborah came along, the honor of killing the enemy general went to a simple girl who lived in a tent (Jael) instead of to Barak.

Speaking of Jael, she needs reprinted too. I nominate the following, which is definitely not OP.

Jael - 5/5 Red WC hero (because a Red female WC hero would be awesome)
"Interrupt Wall of Protection. May choose a male human EC in opponent's territory to block to search deck, discard pile, or hand for Jael's Nail and add it to battle. Jael's Nail cannot be negated."

No, very no. Recurable instant battle winner FTL. Her + wool fleece. GG. Only hope is to run demons and we all know demons are weak and unplayable.in mn

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #19 on:** September 03, 2010, 10:35:57 PM »

I disagree with RR. Its not like the battle winner is CBN......

Master KChief · « **Reply #20 on:** September 03, 2010, 10:39:34 PM »

Quote from: jmhartz on September 03, 2010, 10:18:45 PM

I nominate the following, which is definitely not OP.

this is called sarcasm, people.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #21 on:** September 03, 2010, 10:50:45 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 03, 2010, 10:39:34 PM

Quote from: jmhartz on September 03, 2010, 10:18:45 PM
I nominate the following, which is definitely not OP.

this is called sarcasm, people.

Yes, yes it is. Very nice of you to notice.

(There added to know I r joking)

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #22 on:** September 03, 2010, 11:33:47 PM »

Good catches. I'll change Barak to Red and leave him Warrior-Class (since even if he was a wimp, he was still a commander), and change Deborah's SA accordingly. I don't think it needs to specify unique, since Israelite Archer, Men of Judah, and Men of The Other One are the only O.T. Generic WC EC's.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #23 on:** September 03, 2010, 11:55:52 PM »

True, but then you allow a female to band into the big CBN banding chains. (Just thought of this.) I don't mind personally, but just keep this in mind.

Michael_of_the_Star · « **Reply #24 on:** September 26, 2010, 10:43:59 PM »

Hello Guys,

Thank you for so many idea for Judges, but can you guys please make up some enhancement? I think Judges need negate, negate capture, and access site. Thank you.

ML.

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