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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2009, 05:29:18 PM »
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I'd explain further, but you called me merely Timmer. Clearly, I am Timmest - who is more Tim than I?
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2009, 06:05:17 PM »
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Would be interesting if it discarded ALL humans in play (since he kills his own followers in RL).

the suggestion already states ALL humans......what are you getting at?

 :doh:

I kept reading it as all heroes :P

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2009, 07:22:35 PM »
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It was already decided that Natz promos would only be good.  :)

Cool card though, I'd love to see it in a set in the future.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2009, 07:28:57 PM »
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I'd explain further, but you called me merely Timmer. Clearly, I am Timmest - who is more Tim than I?

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2009, 09:11:32 AM »
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It was already decided that Natz promos would only be good.

Who said it had to be a Nationals Promo  ;)?
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2009, 12:05:18 AM »
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The first post.  ;)
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2009, 06:44:59 PM »
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I NEVER said it had to be a nats promo. I said it should be A promo.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2009, 07:38:16 PM »
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So the Wrath of Satan is as powerful as the Authority of Christ? No...

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2009, 07:39:20 PM »
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So the Wrath of Satan is as powerful as the Authority of Christ? No...

I agree...but for the game purpose I can see what he's saying. There is CM and AotL. So I can see it going both ways
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2009, 11:29:25 AM »
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It is weaker than AoCP.  It can be prevented which opens it up for a whole bunch of mainstream way to stop it.  Adding the cannot be prevented just gives a little extra spice.  cannot be prevented =\= cannot be interrupted, prevented, or negated. 
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2009, 03:43:20 PM »
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I am still in favor of it being negated if oppnent reveals SOG from their hand.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2009, 06:42:20 PM »
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I am going to end this thread by describing the way I think the card should work.

Wrath of Satan
Orange Brigade
Ultra Rare
2/1
Picture: Same as original

SA: Discard all Human Heroes in play.
      Cannot be negated unless
      opponent reveals Son of God from
      their hand.

I think this is cool because of the Sog thing going on and it shows that angels can't be killed and that JESUS is supreame.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2009, 06:45:28 PM »
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What about:

SA: Discard all Human Heroes in play.  Opponent may reveal Son of God from his hand to negate this card.  Otherwise, it cannot be negated.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2009, 06:49:11 PM »
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BETTER!!! It says the same thing but is worded a lot better.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2009, 06:52:43 PM »
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BETTER!!! It says the same thing but is worded a lot better.
Almost the same thing, but it is actually quite different.  Your version simply removed the CBN status by showing SoG.  The hero would still need a negate card to stop everyone from being discarded.  My version actually negates the card by showing SoG.  It is the same idea used by Sinning Hand.

Both work, but your version is more powerful.  My version adds strategy; there would be a reason for some to play with the old version.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2009, 07:10:10 PM »
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You know, to be completely accurate, the opponent should discard SoG. However, that would be a very big cost. Let's see if this would work okay:

"Discard all humans in play. Opponent may discard Son of God from hand to discard all demons in play instead. Cannot be negated by a good card."
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2009, 07:14:29 PM »
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You know, to be completely accurate, the opponent should discard SoG. However, that would be a very big cost. Let's see if this would work okay:

"Discard all humans in play. Opponent may discard Son of God from hand to discard all demons in play instead. Cannot be negated by a good card."
That sounds like an interesting idea.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2009, 07:34:45 PM »
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You know, to be completely accurate, the opponent should discard SoG. However, that would be a very big cost. Let's see if this would work okay:

"Discard all humans in play. Opponent may discard Son of God from hand to discard all demons in play instead. Cannot be negated by a good card."

To be COMPLETELY accurate, that discarded Son of God should return to hand in 3 turns...

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2009, 07:40:32 PM »
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Amen, Cameron

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2009, 07:47:45 PM »
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You know, to be completely accurate, the opponent should discard SoG. However, that would be a very big cost. Let's see if this would work okay:

"Discard all humans in play. Opponent may discard Son of God from hand to discard all demons in play instead. Cannot be negated by a good card."

To be COMPLETELY accurate, that discarded Son of God should return to hand in 3 turns...
That should be saved for another card.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2009, 12:20:54 AM »
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I believe if you play Wrath of Satan on a Warrior class EC With carcasses up It CBN!!!!

Carcasses
Type: Curse • Brigade: Black • Ability: 1 / 5 • Class: None • Special Ability: If a warrior class Evil Character is in battle, discard abilities on evil Enhancements cannot be negated. May be used for two rounds. • Identifiers: OT • Verse: Deuteronomy 28:26 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Uncommon)

This Makes WoS as powerful as AoCP.




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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2009, 01:03:03 AM »
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Not really.  It is pretty easy to protect heroes (especial teal) from discard.  It is not very easy to protect ECs from it.  Also, having an artifact up just to make something CBN is a huge cost.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2009, 02:23:26 AM »
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and you waste it if the opponent does not attack, or you dont get a chance to play wrath of satan in battle.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2009, 04:14:58 AM »
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The best way to play Wrath is HT side-battle with Zecheriah while Z-Temple is out.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2009, 03:38:33 PM »
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Protecting heroes from discard isn't that easy... it's really only useful and effective with teal, and still that's only 1 of 7 brigades (yeah, red doesn't count), and not all teal decks use the covenant (I don't think Gabe did but I could be wrong).

Also, play philistine chariots and horses to make this combo pretty easy to pull off.  ;D
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