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The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« on: October 30, 2009, 08:00:41 PM »
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we have the Authority of Christ promo were it can't be negated, interrupted, or negated. wrath of saten when it was originally released (I think in warriors) it did the exact opposite of the original AtoC. there is one problem. it can be negated. i think it would be cool if there was a promotianal wrath of saten that can't be negated interrupted or prevented. what do you think?

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 08:04:43 PM »
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It would be interesting if you have it this way:

"Discard all heroes in play.  Opponent can reveal a card connected with Christ to negate it otherwise, cannot be negated"

It doesn't have to be connected, per say, but it leaves it open to the fact that if you have Christ with you, Satan's power is diminished.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 08:05:14 PM »
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no. the reason being evil is supposed to be inherently less powerful than good.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2009, 08:12:52 PM »
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I think it would be cool if the sa would be

"Discard all heroes in play. Cannot be negated unless opponent reveals Son of God from his hand"

This would be interesting. I think it could work. Any ideas?
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009, 08:18:54 PM »
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still oped i say use hoh then it is cbn.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 09:24:18 PM »
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True. But I see where 12 is coming from.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2009, 11:20:22 PM »
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It could have a cost, like "Discard all of holder's EC's to discard all heroes. Cannot be Negated." And make it Black/Orange so T2 (and crazy people) can't have dupes.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2009, 12:11:02 AM »
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Imo,

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Sa: Discard all humans in play, cannot be prevented.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2009, 12:40:56 AM »
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Imo,

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Sa: Discard all humans in play, cannot be prevented.

I support this post. Powerful enough to where it could vastly hurt your opponent's offense, and defense if not using a protect fort. It would help encourage civilization defenses and the use of orange on its own so you do not destroy your own defense.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2009, 12:43:23 AM »
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ditto. its a very balanced but formidable card.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2009, 01:49:09 AM »
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imo it should be cannot be interupted.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2009, 02:40:23 AM »
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No more Cannot be Interrupted battlewinners. I'd be all for banning the ones that exist currently, except for AoCP and maybe Haman's Plot.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2009, 09:37:03 AM »
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No more Cannot be Interrupted battlewinners. I'd be all for banning the ones that exist currently, except for AoCP and maybe Haman's Plot.

This. If you wanna stop FBTN, just make it CBP. I much prefer those OR situational CBI/CBN.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2009, 10:42:25 AM »
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No more Cannot be Interrupted battlewinners. I'd be all for banning the ones that exist currently, except for AoCP and maybe Haman's Plot.

This. If you wanna stop FBTN, just make it CBP. I much prefer those OR situational CBI/CBN.

I'm going to make my own thread with orange card ideas because I don't want to hijack this one any further, but I made it CBP because I've noticed orange has problems with FBTN

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2009, 10:28:21 PM »
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I think we should make it,

orange/black
discard all heros not in the field of battle, cannot be IPN'd

then it would be cool if we could come up with a demon who drags all of the blocking players heroes into the field of battle without actually letting them do anything to effect the outcome. something like this

Spirit of Complacency

9/9 orange brigade EC

When this demon enters battle, all of holders heroes in play are brought into the field of battle and have no effect on current battle. Opponent may dicard one of their heroes in battle to negate this.

I don't have a reference and it would only be fun if the WoS Promo was created. I just thought I would put it in for giggles.
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2009, 11:40:36 AM »
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no. the reason being evil is supposed to be inherently less powerful than good.

Right!!!! And if this game is biblically based it has to maintain that satan is NOT equal in any shape or form to God.  I understand the point of making it cannot be negated, but then we are making them equal.  Redemption cannot fall pray to this, otherwise what is the difference between this and another card game such as Magic.  Great Call M.Chief. 

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2009, 11:44:51 AM »
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Imo,

Orange Brigade EE
Sa: Discard all humans in play, cannot be prevented.



I like this suggestion.  It does allow for the heroes to be discarded, cannot be negated, but does not allow the power of satan to be greater than God.  Good choice smokey. 

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2009, 01:25:12 PM »
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No more Cannot be Interrupted battlewinners. I'd be all for banning the ones that exist currently, except for AoCP and maybe Haman's Plot.
I completely agree.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2009, 12:37:19 PM »
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While I agree that making this card to be equal to AoCP is not a good idea, upgrading wrath of satan to something that is actually feared as opposed to shrugged at like it currently is, would be a good thing.  I am recently of the opinion that the Offense in redemption is out of balance with the defense.  Hence the prevalence of speed decks in the top level tourney's.

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Orange Brigade EE
Sa: Discard all humans in play, cannot be prevented.

I like this suggestion the best.  It gives the card some more punch, but does make it even close to unstoppable.  Just my  :2cents:

 
« Last Edit: November 05, 2009, 03:22:42 PM by Korunks »
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2009, 02:45:57 PM »
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Making it orange would be a huge enough boost already, why put any can not be prevented on it? Remeber how much orange can recur...? Putting it in orange would make orange a top defense just because one card. And then it would take away from how orange was intentded to be played.

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2009, 03:11:21 PM »
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and how was orange intended to be played?
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2009, 03:13:13 PM »
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Would be interesting if it discarded ALL humans in play (since he kills his own followers in RL).

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2009, 04:21:57 PM »
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Would be interesting if it discarded ALL humans in play (since he kills his own followers in RL).

the suggestion already states ALL humans......what are you getting at?

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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2009, 04:51:53 PM »
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Sure, maybe it states "all humans," but does it mean "all humans?"
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Re: The Wrath of Saten(Promo)
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2009, 04:56:53 PM »
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Sure, maybe it states "all humans," but does it mean "all humans?"


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