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eliminates chumps and begins in play stabilizes a splash based meta

I kind of agree with you with the restricting players but since they made even more restrict abilities in this last set I don't think that it's ever going to go away so we might as well use it for good to get rid of all the chump blocks.

Here are more Field of Battle cards:

The Wilderness- devotion
The World- Protect decks from search abilities. Restrict players from drawing outside of draw phase.
The Heart- Only humans may enter battle
Kingdom of Heaven- each time your angel enters battle you may draw one. Protect angels from dominants.
Sheol- Demons gain protection from discard by humans.
The Body of Christ- Protect lost souls from evil cards.
The Deep- Restrict each player to playing only 5 dominant cards this game.

I would probably only admit 1 or 2 of these per rotation to keep it fresh and dynamic

Well until something like this is made chump blocks will always be the best defense. I'm also pretty certain that this is not the way Redemption defense it is supposed to be.

Because Babel is basically Colosseum all over again and we see how that worked out. Oh and don't forget that they made the humble lost soul that cannot be negated that makes your chump blocks work anyways. Also with this new Old Testament meta why not throw Jericho in every deck you build if you're running chump blocks.

Babel seems flimsy, but in my early experience that has not been the case.

I'm beginning to wonder how strong a Coliseum/Babel combination might be...

Babel has worked pretty well for me so far in stopping Uzzah/Fire Foxes. Humble LS is simple enough to deal with that's it's a non-issue. If you're relying on a LS for your defense, you're bound to be disappointed. If anything, the perfect example of something restrictive that I believe would be balanced enough to put in play from the start of the game would be Coliseum. The other examples sound about 50% right (Sheol, Body of Christ, Kingdom of Heaven) and 50% wrong (The World, The Heart, The Deep).

We already have cards that restrict players from playing their cards haha look at Moses he is effectively tc restrict in many cases

Moses is a cost/benefit in that he also prevents your own. Moses is a check against decks like Rev Music which rely on a lot of TC searching to work effectively. He doesn't stop you from playing cards in battle, the only place that really matters.

Not to mention became the scapegoat of its defense which has dominated consistently for years

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

I don't recall anyone crying foul at the chump defense of Coney. That kind of thing has been around for years. That wasn't what made the deck broken at all, as evidenced by how utterly ineffective that same defense would be against the CoL. FBTN alone counters the chump defense quite well, and a well-timed Ends add to battle can work around Uzzah and Fire Foxes (assuming there are still LS in the deck). Some popular Heroes even protect the LS (Abigail and Japheth) so Uzzah and Fire Foxes have to work harder in some cases. Clay has Miraculous Handkerchiefs, which I know you've used. In short, there are many good ways around those guys that most decks will be able to build at least one in and not have it hurt the overall consistency of the deck.

FF isn't unbalanced imo. Just don't trigger it (as hard as that is to do). Uzzah, on the other hand, I would say is a problem. Out of all the cards in the game, there are very few I would say are actually bad for the game (Uzzah - free, nigh unrespondable block, Haman's Plot - CBN discard up to and any 3 characters/skews deck-checking at Nats, Samuel - enables the fastest decks/absurd set up with throne, AutO - worst speed enabler with Sam/CBN bulletproof Gideon) because of how unbalanced and abusive they are. Taking just those cards out of the pool would do heaps for the game, and that's only four, and the only ban that would likely affect all decks would be Uzzah.

Granted, I'm not calling for more bans anytime soon. I'm just waiting with bated breath for people to realize how much better the game would be without some of the more troublesome cards.