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Title: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Arrthoa on April 30, 2016, 09:32:01 AM
Herod Antipas
Gold 8/6 WC TC
Capture abilities used against prophets gain "regardless of protection". You may search deck for Herod's Dungeon and place it in territory or make Mark 6 cards Cannot be Interrupted. Cannot be Prevented.

Herodias
Gold 6/6 TC X=  #of captured Heroes in your Land of Bondage
May band to Herod Antipas. If a Hero in your Land of Bondage is discarded by a evil enhacement or neutral card, decrease all prophets by X/X until end of turn.

Entrapping Herodian
Gold 5/4
May band to Entrapping Pharisees. If all your Evil Characters are N.T., you may discard a Heto in opponent's territory, Opponent may withdraw a Hero of same brigade from battle. Cannot be prevented.

Herodian
Gold 5/4 Generic X = # of times opponent used search or draw ability(whichever is greater)
May band to a Herod. If all your Evil Charactets are N.T. and Opponent has used a search or draw ability this turn, you may underdeck X random cards from his hand.

Herod's Dungeon
White site
Holds any number of captured Heroes
If a Herod blocks, you may capture a opponent's male prophet and place in this site. When a N.T. Gold female Evil Character enters battle, you may discard a Hero in this site.

The Platter*
Artifact
Limit to twice per game and may be activated on Herod's Praetorium
If you control a Herod and N.T. female Evil Character, on activation you may discard any captured character to draw 2.
*this is the one that John the Baptist head was delivered on.

Drunken Party
2/2 Gold/Gray
If used by a Roman, Herod, or N.T. female, you may discard a artifact, a Hero a in territory, or withdraw a Hero. Cannot be Interrupted if Herod's Praetorium is in play.

Dance of Death
Gold 2/2
If used by a female Evil Character you may remove a male hero from the game. If used against a N.T. Hero, underdeck this card. Cannot be prevented.



Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Ironisaac on April 30, 2016, 02:56:30 PM
*this is the one that John the Baptist head was delivered on.

Make this the identifier on the card lol ;D
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on April 30, 2016, 03:57:07 PM
Antipas would be more usable if he made capture CBP, but I like him.

Herodias is very nice.

I would like Herodian better as "may withdraw a Hero from battle. Opponent may Discard a card of matching brigade from hand instead."

The new Herod's Dungeon is honestly worse even with the theming.

The Platter is really underwhelming. It's strictly worse than Beheaded most of the time because it eats an art slot. Make it able to activate on Herod's Praetorium and it'd be a nice theme card.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Arrthoa on April 30, 2016, 06:49:31 PM
Are you referring to the  generic herodian or entrapping Herodian.

What improvement should be made to Dungeon to make it better
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: kariusvega on April 30, 2016, 06:55:38 PM
Dungeon is great the way it is because it can effectively be a block.. to make a new dungeon it would have to be better than it already is
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: wyatt_marcum on April 30, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
or it needs to be able to do something different that is also useful, so that there is a choice.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Arrthoa on April 30, 2016, 10:02:11 PM
updated platter and add a identifier to dungeon.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Ironisaac on April 30, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
updated platter and add a identifier to dungeon.

I don't think you need to specify " in a land" because "captured character" already covers that.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Arrthoa on May 01, 2016, 06:47:49 AM
updated platter and add a identifier to dungeon.

I don't think you need to specify " in a land" because "captured character" already covers that.
Corrected. Also added 2 enhancements
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Ironisaac on May 01, 2016, 11:43:25 AM
The under deck on dance of death is to op, because there are so many cards, mostly demons, that can reveal and/or draw from the bottom of deck. Cool idea though!
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 01, 2016, 04:15:36 PM
I like them both. The Dance is balanced by the requirement of your opponent's deckbuilding choices to be great.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Arrthoa on May 02, 2016, 06:50:11 AM
@pol is the addition of the holds any # of heroes identifier enough to make the new Dungeon better.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 02, 2016, 08:25:32 PM
Nope, still worthless compared to the current one. The current one has the ability to actually block, yours is a so-so or even underpowered theme site.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: The Schaefer on May 03, 2016, 01:12:20 AM
Like the ideas. I think the dungeon would need to affect battle more to see play. And @pol I wouldn't call a card idea worthless. Just seems a bit harsh is all. Regardless of whether an idea is good or not the fact that players are putting their ideas out there is awesome and is never worthless compared to any card.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 03, 2016, 09:03:52 AM
I would under the circumstance here where there is a suggested reprint of a card that's currently better than the suggestion in every way. I gave up caring about tone online a long time ago; it's impossible to convey on a forum so I don't try. Besides, you're ignoring the larger post where I praise all the rest of the cards.
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Arrthoa on May 03, 2016, 09:36:51 AM
Herod's Dungeon has been updated
Title: Re: The Remaining Herod Reprints/New Cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on May 04, 2016, 09:59:13 PM
Now that's an option! Prophets are going to be very popular and it's a wide targeting mechanism.
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