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thestrongangel

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Lost Souls Boost
« on: December 19, 2008, 09:55:42 PM »
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Lost Soul
-When drawn, search Opponent's deck for a Lost Soul and place it in their territory.

Lost Soul
-When drawn, protect all Lost Souls with no special ability from rescue. Discard if a covenant enters play.

Den of Thieves
Fortress, Holds up to 3 lost souls with no special ability
-Place this card in your territory. You may discard a good Dominant from hand to protect all Lost Souls with no special ability from rescue by Heroes. Discard if a good Dominant enters play.

Hiding from God
Evil Dominant
Look at Opponent's hand. If Son of God is there, take one Lost Soul from your Land of Bondage and place it in your hand. When you draw a good Dominant, place that Lost Soul under your deck.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2008, 10:26:01 PM »
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That last one would be kinda..... wierd.

"Hey look, I just drew SOG!"
*puts soul under*
"Oh cool! HPP pl0x!"
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2008, 11:14:35 PM »
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Lost Soul
-When drawn, protect all Lost Souls with no special ability from rescue. Discard if a covenant enters play.
Uhhh No. Ls who d/c themselves= bad Same with den, I could stick 3 no s.a. ls in my deck, purposfully play a good dom. Kill 3 ls. Flip up a cov, 4 ls gone. Burial Sog nj = 0 ls for you to rescue.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2008, 11:16:33 PM »
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I understood nothing of that
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2008, 12:29:59 AM »
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Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on December 19, 2008, 11:14:35 PM
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Lost Soul
-When drawn, protect all Lost Souls with no special ability from rescue. Discard if a covenant enters play.
Uhhh No. Ls who d/c themselves= bad Same with den, I could stick 3 no s.a. ls in my deck, purposfully play a good dom. Kill 3 ls. Flip up a cov, 4 ls gone. Burial Sog nj = 0 ls for you to rescue.
I agree on the lost soul, but I think you got the other part wrong.. He wants the FORTRESS to get discarded, not the lost souls. Meaning they are protected, but if you flip up a good Covenant the fortress is discarded and those lost souls aren't protected anymore.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2008, 02:23:08 AM »
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Cards in the fort follow the thing. If you use set fire to kill goshen the heroes follow goshen. Same with the LS.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2008, 12:13:52 PM »
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Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on December 20, 2008, 02:23:08 AM
Cards in the fort follow the thing. If you use set fire to kill goshen the heroes follow goshen. Same with the LS.
Oops, I didn't realize it held lost souls. I just thought it kinda worked like Pharoh's Throne Room, Assyrian Camp, etc.

Thanks for catching that :), I think it would be balanced if it didn't hold lost souls.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2008, 03:04:45 PM »
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Quote from: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on December 20, 2008, 02:23:08 AM
If you use set fire to kill goshen the heroes follow goshen.
That's not true. Goshen is one example of contents not following the fortress. Since heroes in Goshen are protected, then if you discarded Goshen, the heroes would just go back to their territory.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2008, 03:38:31 PM »
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Incorrect. If goshen is shuffled by ANB the contents follow it.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2008, 03:53:20 PM »
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Goshen:
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Type: Fortress • Special Ability: Following Draw Phase place, remove or exchange up to three Heroes in this Site to protect them from harm or effect when they are not in the Field of Battle. • Play As: Place in your territory. This fortress may hold up to three of your Heroes. Cards in this site are protected from harm or effect. Cards can only be added or removed from Goshen during your Preparation phase.

Protected from effect, meaning no special effects will work on the cards in this site. You can do pretty much whatever you want to Goshen, but everything in it is protected.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2008, 04:22:11 PM »
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Not true.

Compare it to a bulletproof box. You cant harm the contents of the box with bullets, but if you toss the whole thing into lava.... they're gonna get cooked along with the box.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2008, 07:25:28 PM »
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So then what's the point of the protection? It doesn't seem to do anything.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2008, 07:46:05 PM »
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House of Rimmon:
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Type: Fortress • Special Ability: Protect Syrian Evil Characters in your territory from shuffle, capture, and discard unless Elisha is in play.

A New Beginning:
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Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Green • Ability: 4 / 5 • Special Ability: ALL players shuffle ALL cards in the field of play, set-aside areas and their hands back into their draw pile. Only cards in Land of Redemption and discard piles remain. ALL players Draw 8 new cards. Holder may begin a new turn. • Errata: If making a rescue attempt, ALL players shuffle ALL cards in the field of play, set-aside areas and their hands back into their draw pile. Only cards in Land of Redemption and discard piles remain. ALL players draw 8 new cards. Holder may begin a new turn. [Note: The new turn begins when the new hands are drawn.]

It was ruled (although don't ask me where, because I don't remember) that if ANB was used while House of Rimmon was up, your Syrians would not get shuffled, but House of Rimmon would. Why is this scenario any different than Goshen, which protects from all effect?
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2008, 08:11:41 PM »
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Your syrians are not INSIDE of House of Rimmon.

Your heroes ARE inside of goshen. Hence the bulletproof box example. House of Rimmon is more like an external force field generator, rather than a box.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2008, 10:14:58 PM »
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The cards inside Goshen are still protected from effect! Where is the ruling on this?
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2008, 11:24:02 PM »
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You can't target the cards inside, but you can target Goshen itself. Game rules state that the contents of a card like Storehouse, Zerubabels Temple, Goshen, anything that can HOLD another card... the contents follow it wherever it goes.

So, if a card is physically HOLDING other cards, and you kill that card, the other cards go with it. The only exception is discarding lost soul sites.
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2008, 12:58:01 AM »
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« Last Edit: December 21, 2008, 01:08:05 AM by TheKarazyvicePresidentRR »
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Re: Lost Souls Boost
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2008, 07:07:38 AM »
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I shall now close off the gaping hole in my face.
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