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for example, these cards could have an identifier called intimidation meaning they can't be ignored by any abilities. A Goliath reprint would fit well with this idea. The actual abilities on the character can be dumbed down a bit because not being able to be ignored is still pretty powerful.

Not a bad idea. A character with the SA "Cannot be Ignored" could be useful, but not too overpowered.

Its a battle winner with E warden. But I agree. Or maybe a multi colored card like lug?

Have fun in the garden.

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Re: The next Redemption dominant card

I'm pretty sure there will be six dominants in the next release.   

not to burst your bubble but i think the new release is gonna be the I/J starters.

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Quote from: STAMP on January 20, 2009, 12:12:43 PM

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Re: The next Redemption dominant card

I'm pretty sure there will be six dominants in the next release.   

not to burst your bubble but i think the new release is gonna be the I/J starters.

The I/J starter will contain 6 dominants instead of 4?  You heard it here first folks! 

I hope there are 6.  If not, one deck will be slightly more powerful than the other.   

Romans Defile the Temple
3/3 MC EE
"Discard one fortress in play."

I would make it

    3/3 MC EE
    Discard all NT heroes and all fortresses in play.  Can't be negated.

Wait, that would be too OP, maybe we could limit it to Romans or something.  How about,

    3/3 MC EE
    If used by a Roman, discard all NT heroes and all fortresses in play.  Can't be negated.

I like it, except why would Romans destroy Rome--that doesn't make any sense. Let's try...

    3/3 MC EE
    If used by a Roman, discard all NT heroes and all fortresses in play, except Rome.  Can't be negated.

Just about perfect.  The only thing nagging at me is that all the new Roman emperors are like 10/1, so maybe we should redistribute the ability points to stick with that theme.  So, we end up with

    6/0 MC EE
    If used by a Roman, discard all NT heroes and all fortresses in play, except Rome.  Can't be negated.

That would be schweet.  Now if I could only come up with a name.

The problem with an enhancement or an EC special ability is that they will never be able to be played vs. a TGT deck.  That is why we need a card that is a dominant (or some sort of new identifier that makes a character unable to be ignored).

The problem with an enhancement or an EC special ability is that they will never be able to be played vs. a TGT deck.

That's not correct. Although it takes some foresight in deck building, it's nowhere near impossible or even difficult to play an EC or an EE against a TGT deck. Take it from someone who had his TGT offense dismantled by his son's well designed counter at a recent tournament.

I personally like: "star of your gods" from another thread.  That dominant can change the face of Defensive stand if you can go in your or your opponent's discard pile and pull out an EC.  Make it a bander and boom you have 2 ECs in battle or 2 of the same brigade in play.  Lots of variation there...

im really late into this topic but hasnt any one heard of lurking before or even darkness(the fort)?

After reading this thread I couldn't help but think about all the old threads that went something like this:
"oh noes FBN is so OP.  There's nothing to stop it.  Blah blah blah."

The problem is not ignore, the problem is pre-block ignore.  That is why I was so displeased with Jacob when FooF was released.  The last thing this game needed was another Ethiopian Treasurer.  The Garden Tomb poses the same problem and has no direct counters.  Is there even a card that targets NT Fortresses?

Currently, the only option to combat The Garden Tomb are Defiant and Masquerading.  Go look up their special abilities because I know most of you probably don't remember what they are.  Then you hit the problem of being able to play them in the first place.

I am also very sure that solving balance issues with dominants is not the way to go.  We need cards that won't log jam deck building not more "use this or lose" cards.

We need a batch of cards that have the same wording as Defiant and Masquerading.  Set aside cards would really shine here.  Here's some ideas:

Defiant
Palegreen/Orange Enhancement
Set aside a demon for one turn.  On return, demon may gain "Cannot be ignored while remaining in play" or "Cannot be removed from the game while remaining in play."

Masquerading
Crimson/Orange Enhancement
Set aside a demon for one turn.  On return, demon gains either "Cannot be ignored while remaining in play" or "Cannot be discarded while remaining in play.

Stubbornness
Gray/Black Enhancement
Set aside up to X generic, human Evil Characters for X turns.  On return, characters gain either "Cannot be ignored while remaining in play'' or "Cannot be converted while remaining in play."  If X is greater than 4, characters may gain both.
X=Number of Fortresses one opponent has in play

Sean

Beating The Garden Tomb is easy: don't rescue until your defense is set up with a few characters and a protection fort. 

If you think you might face Garden Tomb, play one evil brigade and use a good number of ECs.

Of course, there will be some interesting ways to combat TGT in the next set, too. 

Beating The Garden Tomb is easy: don't rescue until your defense is set up with a few characters and a protection fort. 

Oddly enough I did just beat a TGT deck by waiting forever to take my first LS.  However, that won't work against a deck that uses TGT as well as other ways to win LSs.  Waiting that long just means they get to 5 first.

If you think you might face Garden Tomb, play one evil brigade and use a good number of ECs.

Almost all my decks this year have one evil brigade, a good number of ECs, and a protection fort.  Yet still it is easier to draw a TGT hero (when there are 4 in your deck) and TGT (or the hero who pulls it out), than it is to draw 3 ECs in your first turn.  And you need 3 most times because there are so many ways to take out ECs (Holy Grail, Jepthah, AotL, etc.) before they get a chance to block.  And if they draw ET + AoCP, then having 3 ECs doesn't matter either.

I know it seems like it should be easy to stop TGT, but in actual games, it seems like it is unexpectedly difficult.

Of course, there will be some interesting ways to combat TGT in the next set, too. 

That is good to hear.  I also hope that there will be a lack of more cards of that nature.  We don't need more ways to stop people playing a game from being able to even play.