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black defenses are good because you have access to Canaanites, Sadducees, Greeks, etc So are people going to cut those characters or just not use Rapha? Probably not use Rapha.
Quote from: The Guardian on March 14, 2018, 03:46:15 PMQuote from: TheHobbit on March 14, 2018, 03:29:51 PMYeah, I don't know why Unity is put on there without it being agreed upon in voting. And then assuming "if blocking" means when this card is blocking that's a different reserve access ability than was voted upon.In the final vote "Reserve access" was what was voted on, there was no specifics on how that would be implemented.Well before specific abilities were voted on and then combinations were selected, so to me it looked like you'd just take from that pool. I didn't realize you were disregarding the abilities from the first vote.I guess we can playtest it with unity, but it makes more sense to playtest it without and see if the ability is too powerful to be splashed. We'd still be going off intuition in deciding whether unity waters the card down too much or not otherwise. So I will save you the time and let you know that it does... black defenses are good because you have access to Canaanites, Sadducees, Greeks, etc So are people going to cut those characters or just not use Rapha? Probably not use Rapha.If you're set on unity then I would cut the parenthesis and let him top deck weapons or philistines every time one blocks.
Quote from: TheHobbit on March 14, 2018, 03:29:51 PMYeah, I don't know why Unity is put on there without it being agreed upon in voting. And then assuming "if blocking" means when this card is blocking that's a different reserve access ability than was voted upon.In the final vote "Reserve access" was what was voted on, there was no specifics on how that would be implemented.
Yeah, I don't know why Unity is put on there without it being agreed upon in voting. And then assuming "if blocking" means when this card is blocking that's a different reserve access ability than was voted upon.
Cbn and an add to battle would justify unity here.
Quote from: kariusvega on March 15, 2018, 10:58:08 AMCbn and an add to battle would justify unity here.If Rapha gets CBN, he has to lose the protect ability. Way too strong if he can sit in territory w/ CBN protection and continue grabbing cards from Reserve and extending battles every time you are attacked.
I guess it depends on how you want the battle continuation to happen. Can he extend battles while he remains in territory? If so, no way can he get CBN, because he also protects himself and his pals in territory.Can he extend a battle when he blocks? That's something different, but still, with CBN, he's a guaranteed battle extension (so basically cancels out opponent's AotL) every game. That's really strong, but he does have the Unity identifier...
How would his ability cancel out AotL? it only protects philistines in territory.
Quote from: tripleplayNa1 on March 15, 2018, 12:39:21 PMHow would his ability cancel out AotL? it only protects philistines in territory.For example, if Rapha said an additional ability of "If removed from battle, you may add your Philistine Giant to battle. CBN."
At least cbn protection justifies unity at the moment ..Half the problem I have blocking in t1 is keeping ecs on the table.If you're playing CoL or BoM you don't even have to.. in both cases you are even trying to get rid of your own ecs and in tgt it was the same gig. Just saying CoL is not the problem there when it comes to interactive battle phases and an ongoing issue for several years of blocking
If Rapha didn't protect himself, CBN is fine. If he protects himself, it isn't.
Nice! I don't like how it says "take it" in the ability... I realize "put into hand" or "take into hand" is longer but it also leaves nothing to the imagination as to what "take it" means.
As mentioned in the "Fix a Card" thread, cards like Thaddeus and AutO are examples of abilities we want to move away from. And let's be real, CoL doesn't win battles...the stack of Fruits and Armors you can put on CoL are what wins battles.
Quote from: The Guardian on March 16, 2018, 02:10:00 PMAs mentioned in the "Fix a Card" thread, cards like Thaddeus and AutO are examples of abilities we want to move away from. And let's be real, CoL doesn't win battles...the stack of Fruits and Armors you can put on CoL are what wins battles. I get that but isn't that moving in the opposite direction and actually empowering those cards more?
What elements does a cbn Rapha have that oak, CoL, etc also have?
Quote from: TheHobbit on March 16, 2018, 03:43:41 PMWhat elements does a cbn Rapha have that oak, CoL, etc also have? The common element is that you want to do something about your opponent's Gideon/CoL/Rapha, but you can't, because of CBN protection. There's literally almost nothing you can do.