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@raven.... wyn
@Sniper... plz explain how these scriptures make the rapture evil
@Wraith... at least there is some who < you...Sniper<Wraith

I never said the rapture was evil.  I'm simply pointing out that with the rapture, current believers are taken to heaven, and post-rapture believers are persecuted for their beliefs, hence, human heroes being discarded or temporarily removed while leaving limited heroes to make rescue attempts (Mainly angels and newly drawn/played heroes).  The Rapture is not evil just like death for a Christian is not truly "Evil" because we go home to our Creator.  As far as the whole X>Y<Z thing, one topic and misunderstanding by one person does not make someone better or less than another person.  All men were created equal.

Quote from: SomeKittens on May 18, 2010, 07:03:15 PM

Or just have the real thing happen.  It'll clear up quite a bit of stuff.
Ditto on the shuffle.  Or return to hand/something or other.
Though to keep it theologically correct, we should return all the heroes to their maker, Cactus Games.

this was very funny, haha


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Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Also, there's something in your eye:

Please stop with all the abbreviations, I have no clue what they stand for and it would take me even longer time to look them up.  Can someone seriously answer this question, please!!!!!!!

haha, I'm reading while I'm hungry, hahaha, I can see how I can be a plague by myself!

applaud

Well, it's not good either, as it takes out most of the heroes.  What is it then?

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on May 18, 2010, 09:32:38 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on May 18, 2010, 08:37:48 PM

i cant quote anymore cuz it exceeds 500 characters...
@raven.... wyn
@Sniper... plz explain how these scriptures make the rapture evil
@Wraith... at least there is some who < you...Sniper<Wraith

I never said the rapture was evil.  I'm simply pointing out that with the rapture, current believers are taken to heaven, and post-rapture believers are persecuted for their beliefs, hence, human heroes being discarded or temporarily removed while leaving limited heroes to make rescue attempts (Mainly angels and newly drawn/played heroes).  The Rapture is not evil just like death for a Christian is not truly "Evil" because we go home to our Creator.  As far as the whole X>Y<Z thing, one topic and misunderstanding by one person does not make someone better or less than another person.  All men were created equal.

if its not evil then is not a EVIL card... u prove my point... thanks for the awesome self-pwn

Your point? What point did YOU have? The only person who gave any "point" was Raven, not you.  So you would rather have a *GOOD* Rapture card that removes all human heroes and pave the way for the defense side?  Tell me where the logic lies in that.  The event itself may be good, but the effect on the game benefits the evil side.  I didn't do this unwittingly or because I am "new," there is a special conflict with this ability that benefits the evil characters so THAT'S WHY I CHOSE TO MAKE IT AN EVIL ENHANCEMENT.

i cant quote anymore cuz it exceeds 500 characters...
@raven.... wyn
@Sniper... plz explain how these scriptures make the rapture evil
@Wraith... at least there is some who < you...Sniper<Wraith

wyn. so long as the raven comment was a joke.

Sniper, how about this?
Rapture.
good dominant
"after game, player may place all heroes in land of redemption."
biblically accurate, and oh so totally useless.

Quote from: The Warrior on May 18, 2010, 09:46:58 PM

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on May 18, 2010, 09:32:38 PM

Quote from: The Warrior on May 18, 2010, 08:37:48 PM

i cant quote anymore cuz it exceeds 500 characters...
@raven.... wyn
@Sniper... plz explain how these scriptures make the rapture evil
@Wraith... at least there is some who < you...Sniper<Wraith

I never said the rapture was evil.  I'm simply pointing out that with the rapture, current believers are taken to heaven, and post-rapture believers are persecuted for their beliefs, hence, human heroes being discarded or temporarily removed while leaving limited heroes to make rescue attempts (Mainly angels and newly drawn/played heroes).  The Rapture is not evil just like death for a Christian is not truly "Evil" because we go home to our Creator.  As far as the whole X>Y<Z thing, one topic and misunderstanding by one person does not make someone better or less than another person.  All men were created equal.

if its not evil then is not a EVIL card... u prove my point... thanks for the awesome self-pwn

Your point? What point did YOU have? The only person who gave any "point" was Raven, not you.  So you would rather have a Rapture card that removes all human heroes and pave the way for the defense side?  Tell me where the logic lies in that.  The event itself may be good, but the effect on the game benefits the evil side.  I didn't do this unwittingly or because I am "new," there is a special conflict with this ability that benefits the evil characters so THAT'S WHY I CHOSE TO MAKE IT AN EVIL ENHANCEMENT.

my point : You said

I never said the rapture was evil

, But you are trying to make it a EVIL enhancement.
Its not Evil but its evil. Thats makes LOTS of Sense

UR/Promo
Brigade: N/a at this time (Evil Enhancement)

"Set aside all non-human heroes. After seven turns, shuffle heroes into owner's draw piles.  Cannot be Negated, interrupted, prevented, or redirected."

52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Corinthians 15:52

(Modified version)

This version makes more sense, in the exception that it's an Evil Dominant. Satan won't bring the rapture nor will evil forces trigger the rapture. I get what you mean by satan being released onto the earth but it still doesn't seem right being an evil card.

The problem here is that the biblical concept of the Rapture does not fit into Redemption's game mechanics.  So, we either mess with it a bit or not have it as a card.
Jesus has massive, massive power.  Naturally this is a little unbalanced (lucky for us, we're on the right side).  So Rob had to nerf Jesus (what a terrible phrase) in order to make Redemption a playable game.
Hope this helps.  COUNTER_SNIPER, you may want to mess with it a bit more.  Seven turns is a long time.
You may want to have it make evil battle evil, a sort of "brother v. brother" type of thing.

Seven phases then?  Either way, there's too much of a negative response to such a card and it's a contradiction between the actual event and the resulting action to the game so I'm saying now, forget the idea.  It won't work.

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on May 18, 2010, 09:59:06 PM

UR/Promo
Brigade: N/a at this time (Evil Enhancement)

"Set aside all non-human heroes. After seven turns, shuffle heroes into owner's draw piles.  Cannot be Negated, interrupted, prevented, or redirected."

52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Corinthians 15:52

(Modified version)

This version makes more sense, in the exception that it's an Evil Dominant. Satan won't bring the rapture nor will evil forces trigger the rapture. I get what you mean by satan being released onto the earth but it still doesn't seem right being an evil card.

Evil enhancement, not Dominant.  It is not activated by satan but it temporarily enhances evil.  I don't want to make a Dominant, but I'm scrapping the idea anyway.

Bible>breaking the game

New ideas are OP'D to the mizzax.