Author Topic: Saul/Paul Reprint (Read 11056 times)

megamanlan · « **Reply #50 on:** March 26, 2011, 11:10:32 PM »

That's the point! He's not easy to convert! My new version makes it much easier to convert and makes him very useful and much more competitive.

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #51 on:** March 27, 2011, 10:50:28 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on March 08, 2011, 02:29:05 AM

The only thing I would change about Saul is to make him 10/11 instead of 11/10 so he's more useful in FBTN scenarios.

Don't forget that Paul enjoys the effects of Obadiah's Caves and Herod's Temple making him fairly invincible since most of the CBN evil cards are discard or capture.

Also of note, I built a T2 offense around Paul recently and Gabe said it was one of the best offenses he's ever played against.

And no I'm not telling what it was...

I love using Paul in my "One of Paul's identifiers" deck, especially in T1 multi or T1 Teams. The SoFla playgroup has found many ways to utilize Saul/Paul effectively as both good and evil. Here's the box: [] but don't open it

-C_S

megamanlan · « **Reply #52 on:** March 27, 2011, 11:27:27 AM »

Well, he should actually work as a Pharisee, because thats what he is

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #53 on:** March 27, 2011, 03:32:52 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on March 27, 2011, 11:27:27 AM

Well, he should actually work as a Pharisee, because thats what he is

He does... but he also works as a Roman. I personally think he works quite well within a Prophets/Roman deck. Sure, my deck may not be a "Win almost every game" deck, but Saul/Paul can be useful in either form depending on what your goal [and theme(s)] is/are with your deck.

**EDIT: Btw, your reprint idea is quite intriguing even though I like S/P the way he is**
-C_S

megamanlan · « **Reply #54 on:** March 30, 2011, 04:36:17 AM »

Thanks!

Just to note: I am just trying to make a more fun S/P not replace the first, unless u just run the first as an EC (like I do) His EC side is a waste unless u pull a FBTN card, because no opponent would purposely convert Saul. And besides I make it easier to turn him to Paul.

Also why is he defined as a Roman again? Because I thought he was a Jew, and didnt he have to be a Jew to be a Pharisee?

SomeKittens · « **Reply #55 on:** March 30, 2011, 08:03:57 AM »

He inherited it from his father.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #56 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:45:14 AM »

Short answer: He was a Roman Jew (or a Jewish Roman).

megamanlan · « **Reply #57 on:** March 30, 2011, 01:47:31 PM »

Oh... Okay....

Red · « **Reply #58 on:** March 30, 2011, 04:43:43 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on March 26, 2011, 11:10:32 PM

That's the point! He's not easy to convert! My new version makes it much easier to convert and makes him very useful and much more competitive.

Using holy grail isn't hard at all. And he is strong enough as is.

megamanlan · « **Reply #59 on:** March 30, 2011, 11:01:27 PM »

Not everyone uses Holy Grail! And not everyone can afford to have one! And why not have a good version of Saul that's better for more than FBTN? Yea know King of Tyre is made to be good for something.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #60 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:55:10 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on March 30, 2011, 11:01:27 PM

Not everyone uses Holy Grail! And not everyone can afford to have one! And why not have a good version of Saul that's better for more than FBTN? Yea know King of Tyre is made to be good for something.

10/10 multi isn't good enough? I don't think Cactus should reprint cards just so they're easier to use for new players(*)

*(unless it's wording change only, same effect.)

megamanlan · « **Reply #61 on:** April 01, 2011, 08:15:05 PM »

It wouldn't just be for new players, it would also be for players that don't spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on really good cards. Besides no one that I've played has ever been able to convert him. And Cactus won't make a Teritory Class Convert Card. And no one wants to play Healing of Naaman eather. Paul is useless if u can't convert him to Paul.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #62 on:** April 01, 2011, 08:19:09 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on April 01, 2011, 08:15:05 PM

It wouldn't just be for new players, it would also be for players that don't spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on really good cards. Besides no one that I've played has ever been able to convert him. And Cactus won't make a Teritory Class Convert Card. And no one wants to play Healing of Naaman eather. Paul is useless if u can't convert him to Paul.

Josh · « **Reply #63 on:** April 01, 2011, 08:39:54 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 07, 2011, 10:51:05 PM

I've always thought of the "thorn in the flesh" as a mother in law.

Random fact, "mother in law" anagrams to "woman hitler". I actually got this in a question at a school quizzing tournament.

Josh · « **Reply #64 on:** April 01, 2011, 08:48:58 PM »

Sorry for the double post, but wanted to add my two cents...

Don't forget megamanlan, that by merely placing Saul into play, you will immediately get into your opponent's head, because he has the potential to be so devastating once converted. Your opponent has no idea whether Saul is a decoy, a plain vanilla 11/10 Pharisee/Roman, or whether you plan on converting him later. He gets the protection of CP, HPP, and Herod's Temple, can use all your gray enhancements specific to Romans and Pharisees, can block FBTN heroes better than most Pharisees, can be used to play RDJ with Pharisees/Proud Pharisee, etc. But I think the effect he could have on how your opponent plays would end up being his most valuable quality.

Red · « **Reply #65 on:** April 01, 2011, 09:07:51 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on April 01, 2011, 08:15:05 PM

It wouldn't just be for new players, it would also be for players that don't spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on really good cards. Besides no one that I've played has ever been able to convert him. And Cactus won't make a Teritory Class Convert Card. And no one wants to play Healing of Naaman eather. Paul is useless if u can't convert him to Paul.

You've played some money-strapped players. Meeting the messiah is all you need. and it's TEXP. And Holy grail is a $5 card BTW. Not a $100 card.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #66 on:** April 01, 2011, 09:50:04 PM »

Quote from: jmhartz on April 01, 2011, 08:39:54 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 07, 2011, 10:51:05 PM
I've always thought of the "thorn in the flesh" as a mother in law.
Random fact, "mother in law" anagrams to "woman hitler". I actually got this in a question at a school quizzing tournament.

For the record, my mother-in-law is a wonderful Christian woman who I have had no problems with. The world will feed you any lie (aka stereotype) you are willing to listen to. I might also add that my wife is not a ball and chain, and my kids are three of God's greatest blessings.

Live happy.... it's more fun that way.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #67 on:** April 01, 2011, 10:12:32 PM »

I figure I'll end up in the same situation, so I'll cram in the jokes while I can.

megamanlan · « **Reply #68 on:** April 01, 2011, 10:47:40 PM »

Whatever. Still most people will not buy a Redemption Card for $5 if their strapped on money, they'll be reluctant on even buying cards for $1 let alone $5!

And besides it would be more fun having a good useful Saul that has an effect.

Josh · « **Reply #69 on:** April 02, 2011, 09:30:07 AM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on April 01, 2011, 09:50:04 PM

Quote from: jmhartz on April 01, 2011, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: SomeKittens on March 07, 2011, 10:51:05 PM
I've always thought of the "thorn in the flesh" as a mother in law.
Random fact, "mother in law" anagrams to "woman hitler". I actually got this in a question at a school quizzing tournament.

For the record, my mother-in-law is a wonderful Christian woman who I have had no problems with. The world will feed you any lie (aka stereotype) you are willing to listen to. I might also add that my wife is not a ball and chain, and my kids are three of God's greatest blessings.

Live happy.... it's more fun that way.

I love my mother-in-law as well. My whole team and I were pretty much in disbelief when they revealed the answer to the question (no one got it right).

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #70 on:** April 02, 2011, 12:52:41 PM »

That's why I like the Cactus version of board/family games better.

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #71 on:** April 02, 2011, 11:29:49 PM »

Any old convert enhancement will work... I'm sure there's a CBN floating around as well.

haha, fun times

-C_S

megamanlan · « **Reply #72 on:** April 03, 2011, 12:07:18 AM »

I'd like one that converts when anyone plays SoG, and Cannot be Converted, because another question, If Paul is converted to an EC then does he go back to Saul? And I'd call it really strange if the person that gave us most of our Doctrine can go back to bad.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #73 on:** April 03, 2011, 12:09:47 AM »

He becomes the EC Paul, a 10/10 no SA in whatever brigade he was converted to.

megamanlan · « **Reply #74 on:** April 03, 2011, 12:21:00 AM »

Actually Converted EC's and Heroes keep their effects, it's just that most of them are useless, Ex. Nebuchadnezzar, His effect would still work if he was a Hero and u had a card that would make him not have a Daniel Reference.

Proud Pharisee would be good eather way, because It doesn't specify that it needs any Evil Cards at all.
Anyway, Paul would not be able to be poisened and all Enhancements are still CBN if that's true.

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Author Topic: Saul/Paul Reprint (Read 11056 times)