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No, it isn't specualtion. Here's why: At that point in time, after over about 500 years of silence from God, If he suddenly sent some normal person to tell Mary she was going to have a baby or to Joseph they would most likely say that he's crazy or worse, that he was possessed. The only possible way for them to believe was for a supernatural event to happen for them, like an angel telling them, it's the exact same story with the shepards.You're right, but for the wrong reasons. Because there was 500 years of silence, no prophet (human messenger of God) could be sent to tell them, so God used an angel. Had a prophet told them, I'd bet they'd believe, but no prophet could because the silence was not yet done.It's very unlikely they would have believed a guy that walked up to them and said 'The son of God was born in that cave there.' The Shepards would have thought the guy was insane.Same reasoning. Personally, if I lived during that time, and any "normal" person would do that, I would think they're insane. If they were a prophet or Godly person, I wouldn't.If that us true that Angels do not proclaim the gospel, Where does God say that they are not allowed to? And why then did he use angels to tell the shepards the good news, The women at the tomb and more? It is obvious that they did not believe that Jesus was going to be raised from the dead.I can't find a passage saying that they do not, but we have been given no example of them doing any such thing. The shepherds bit has been covered, and the women at the tomb were already believers. Just because they didn't believe he was going to doesn't mean they didn't believe.My reason for saying this is that nearly all people from the Old Testament did not spread the gospel, for that matter, most of them probably didn't even understand what Isaiah meant when he said what he did about Jesus. And to say that it's basically a belief in God then that is what the angels proclaim as well, like when the angel appeared to Balaam.Faith in God, not spreading of the gospel, and the angel did NOT proclaim that to Balaam. He came to Balaam to kill him.
I have made ideas like that already, just check all my card ideas that I've posted.The reason why their's a Female angel is because the set that it came from was based of the Angel Wars tv show that had 2 female angels. That's why.
Quote from: megamanlan on April 27, 2011, 07:18:15 PMNo, it isn't specualtion. Here's why: At that point in time, after over about 500 years of silence from God, If he suddenly sent some normal person to tell Mary she was going to have a baby or to Joseph they would most likely say that he's crazy or worse, that he was possessed. The only possible way for them to believe was for a supernatural event to happen for them, like an angel telling them, it's the exact same story with the shepards.You're right, but for the wrong reasons. Because there was 500 years of silence, no prophet (human messenger of God) could be sent to tell them, so God used an angel. Had a prophet told them, I'd bet they'd believe, but no prophet could because the silence was not yet done.It's very unlikely they would have believed a guy that walked up to them and said 'The son of God was born in that cave there.' The Shepards would have thought the guy was insane.Same reasoning. Personally, if I lived during that time, and any "normal" person would do that, I would think they're insane. If they were a prophet or Godly person, I wouldn't.If that us true that Angels do not proclaim the gospel, Where does God say that they are not allowed to? And why then did he use angels to tell the shepards the good news, The women at the tomb and more? It is obvious that they did not believe that Jesus was going to be raised from the dead.I can't find a passage saying that they do not, but we have been given no example of them doing any such thing. The shepherds bit has been covered, and the women at the tomb were already believers. Just because they didn't believe he was going to doesn't mean they didn't believe.My reason for saying this is that nearly all people from the Old Testament did not spread the gospel, for that matter, most of them probably didn't even understand what Isaiah meant when he said what he did about Jesus. And to say that it's basically a belief in God then that is what the angels proclaim as well, like when the angel appeared to Balaam.Faith in God, not spreading of the gospel, and the angel did NOT proclaim that to Balaam. He came to Balaam to kill him.
The starter deck one is good enough, IMO.
New Idea: using the verse in revalationQuoteRevalation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be the glory and dominion for ever and ever. AmenI thought this could have the ability set a NT hero aside for one? turn hero returns with the added teal or pruple brigade.-just a thought-
Revalation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be the glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
Just out of curiosity, even though I'm sure it's been mentioned before... while on the topic of angels, may I ask, "Why is there a female angel?" I'd like to read/know the reasoning and backing behind such a card.-C_S
Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on April 28, 2011, 01:02:52 AMJust out of curiosity, even though I'm sure it's been mentioned before... while on the topic of angels, may I ask, "Why is there a female angel?" I'd like to read/know the reasoning and backing behind such a card.-C_S
One major problem that u are neglecting is that these people are currently dealing with plenty of false prophets. Plus most people would question someone who claimed to be a prophet that suddenly appeared and said that some girl is going to have the Son of God. I mean Joseph didn't even believe her, so how many people would believe a guy that claimed to be from God? Most people wouldn't because God has been silent for so long, most people would deny that the person was a prophet at all. Don't forget: 'A prophet is never accepted in his hometown'God was silent for a reason, and He wasn't going to break it when there were other ways. Had God not been silent, I bet He would have sent a prophet, but again, speculation.Joseph didn't believe her? Source?Regardless, the angel did not proclaim a message of salvation to them. It just told Mary that she was going to be the one to have the Messiah.That's my point: There is no restriction that says that they can't. And next up, The shepherds were most likely not expecting the Son of God to come in their lifetime, and if he did, they probably wouldn't care, because they assumed that it wouldn't affect them. They may as well of been Lost Souls that were converted to our belief by angels.*Insert a bunch of ridiculous examples of things we aren't restricted of doing* Bad argument. "You didn't say I COULDN'T do this, so I guess I can!" Yeah, try that one on your parents sometime. We have been given no demonstration of them ever doing it, and there is no promise that they ever will do it, and God has specifically said it's our job, even though He uses His creation as well. Humans can do it far more effectively than angels.As for the shepherds, speculation again. I'm pretty sure all Jewish people thought that the Messiah was going to affect them though. If you're going to do that, practically EVERYBODY would be an evil character during that time and before that time.Second, The Women at the tomb did not believe that he would be resurrected, and w/o the resurrection, our faith is useless because God didn't defeat Death. They did not believe that he could live again. They were as good as lost, until the angel revealed to them that he was alive again.The resurrection hadn't happened yet. Again, if you're going to do that, practically everybody would be an evil character.No it didn't, The Angel was there to block Balaam from fulfilling his mission. Faith in God is taught by everyone, Human and Angel. But you have to heed Jesus' warning, 'Even the Demons believe in God.'Um, read Numbers 22. He basically says (this is paraphrase from memory) "I came here to kill you and your donkey saved your life. Don't hurt him." So it wasn't there to block him, it was there to kill him. It gave him a warning.And when did I say belief in God was what was necessary? Faith, not belief. Huge difference.
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