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All throughout the bible angels have appeared to people and have pointed them to the faith, read luke 2:2-16, the angels pointed them to see what would make them believe, and they believed the angels.

1. Yeah, they proclaimed good news that Jesus was born, and they said he would be the Savior, but these people probably already believed the promise that a Savior was coming, the angels just said that the promise was here.
2. This was not evangelism. Evangelism is pointing people to Christ's death, which hadn't happened yet.

They have also helped people stay in the faith.

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In addition, if you can find somewhere in the Bible where the angels have preached the gospel (which you won't, because it's not there...) it will have been such a rare occurrence that it won't matter.

Jesus predicted his own death.

If preaching the good news is telling about the death of Christ then what did Jesus preach about all thourout the
new testament?

Preaching about the death of Christ isn't the only good news

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*sigh* Read Revelation: There's an angel that is sent out to preach the good news to the world.
Plus I would say that Joseph would'nt of believed that the baby in Mary's womb was the Son of God unless he was told by the angel. And The Shepards wouldn't have believed some guy that walked up to them and told them. It's the same throughout the Bible, Angel means Messenger, if that is true then they could rescue people as well.

It's not God's preference but if he had to, like with Joseph, Mary, and more, he will use Angels, because a man that would have said that would have been looked at as a madman or being possessed by a demon.

And if Angels were mean't to be a supporting Brigade, then why are they able to rescue Lost Souls? Cactus could have easily put a note down that said: Angels cannot rescue Lost Souls. And that would be the end of it.

The other point is that then why can OT Heroes rescue Lost Souls beyond the prophets? They could not have told people of the good news! They didn't even know it much more than what the prophets said! And they didn't try to tell others about the good news ether!

I'm not going to reread an entire book (I have read it a number of times). Citing your sources would make me looking it up much easier, since I don't have a clue where to start.

Speculation. We don't know their situation, so we cannot determine whether they would have believed with or without an angel. Personally, I like to think that God chose them because they were faithful, and didn't want them to miss out.

First off, Angel is a human term. Angels do a LOT more than just bring messages. Angel means messenger, yes, but not messenger of the Gospel. We see angels delivering messages from the Lord (Genesis 16:11-12 for example), but never do we see one proclaim the Gospel.

Yeah, Cactus shouldn't have let them rescue souls IMO. It did save Redemption though, and for that I am grateful. It's kind of hard to undo how unhelpful to other brigades some are though (TSA...) but in general, an angel deck shouldn't win without another offense, so I'm content.

New Testament versus Old Testament. Faith in God is the key in both. The Old Testament people would still tell others about God, in order that they might receive the promise of grace which God gives because of Jesus' sacrifice. It's the same thing, really, we just go about it in a different way now than before.

The angels were sent to get Lot out of there because he was faithful. Not the other way around.

I like the idea of Angels negating and discarding sites...especially red ones... ...

I have to admit that I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other on this one.  I've really enjoyed reading your posts though.  I have found both sides very thought-provoking.

After one of my sons read this thread he pointed out that he won 2 tournaments with an all-angels deck, and would like to see more.

Quote from: cookie monster on April 26, 2011, 02:38:45 PM

If there is a brigade that destroys sites and fortresses, then silver would work.

See, the thing is, Angels are renowned for doing battle.  When I think angel, I don't think some plump baby.  I think 9-foot-tall massive winged Angel!  I like that they're a FBTN brigade, and fight with their muscle.  I think that for a support brigade, they're pretty puny.

Funny that the worst two brigades fit your description (Red and Silver). If Redemption was about slaughtering the enemy, they should definitely be the best.

Revelation Expansion card idea:  Re-do the John promo to combine the SA on the local promo with the Bible verse that I originally suggested when I came up with the idea.  I was happy that the card made it into the game, but I always wished the orginal verse stayed with it since it matched the SA (search any deck but don't shuffle) so well.  Of course, promos don't have verses so it was left off, but I think Revelation 1:1 went real well with the card:  "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John" (KJV).  I think it'd be great to tweak John's numbers and re-release him as a non-promo so it could include this verse.

I think a Revalation booster set would be awesome! I've have stinkloads of good ideas but none of them have come from Revalation.
-Seriously, they need a "double Warrior class" Character-
I'm going to re-read Revalation and keep an eye out for good ideas

By the way, I'm the one who Kordel Lentine was referring to, the one who won a couple of tournaments with not just an all-Angel deck, but an all-Angel all-Demon deck

As awesome as that would be (minus helping angel stand alone), it wouldn't make sense to have a Silver/Teal hero...

I don't remember the specific passage, but I've been reading through Revelation and I will eventually find it again, and once I do I'll let u know.

No, it isn't specualtion. Here's why: At that point in time, after over about 500 years of silence from God, If he suddenly sent some normal person to tell Mary she was going to have a baby or to Joseph they would most likely say that he's crazy or worse, that he was possessed. The only possible way for them to believe was for a supernatural event to happen for them, like an angel telling them, it's the exact same story with the shepards.
It's very unlikely they would have believed a guy that walked up to them and said 'The son of God was born in that cave there.' The Shepards would have thought the guy was insane.

If that us true that Angels do not proclaim the gospel, Where does God say that they are not allowed to? And why then did he use angels to tell the shepards the good news, The women at the tomb and more? It is obvious that they did not believe that Jesus was going to be raised from the dead.

My reason for saying this is that nearly all people from the Old Testament did not spread the gospel, for that matter, most of them probably didn't even understand what Isaiah meant when he said what he did about Jesus. And to say that it's basically a belief in God then that is what the angels proclaim as well, like when the angel appeared to Balaam.

That's what I have to say on this.