Author Topic: Revelation Ideas - Chapter 4 - The Living Creatures and Elders (Read 4415 times)

megamanlan · « **on:** March 29, 2012, 03:47:28 AM »

I've finally gotten around to making more cards and now I'd love to see what you all think of them!

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Let me know what you all think!

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2012, 05:46:16 AM »

Wow, these are cool! I was going to skip one of them in the gallery, but then I upvoted it because of the art. So deliciously new-agey! Great success, sir.

Master Q · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2012, 12:39:29 PM »

I really like the art on the 1st two and the Four Living Creatures enhancement (just wish the Copyright info was not visible on the 24 Elders).

I really don't like the art on the rest.

If you remove the "Discard an Artifact to give NT angels site access" part on the 4th creature I'd like him better.

I would also change the abilities (*/*) on the creatures to match what # they were (1st living is a 1/4, 2nd is a 2/4, etc.)

megamanlan · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:00:28 PM »

I wish that u couldn't see it that much either. Trust me it took time for find some good pictures, (I couldn't really find one of the calf or the eagle) Thx Polarius! I enjoyed making these!

I am just wondering but why would u want that taken off?

I may change the toughness, but Probally not the the strength. (partly because I don't think it makes sense to have a lion w/ stats 1/4, but I like the idea, since I did it for my Seals)

cookie monster · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:32:45 PM »

I like these cards, but I think it would be better if you geared these cards a little more for humans. Angels are supposed to be a back up brigade. I do like the idea of making them musicians, maybe it would help make musicians more viable.

Over all, nice job

These could be very useful cards in the future.

Also, making the creature have 2 brigades might be a good idea

megamanlan · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2012, 03:23:51 PM »

The idea is for them not to help Humans, since they don't. I'm strongly against the use of Angels as a 'support brigade' since it isn't Biblically supported.

I had an idea for them to be Silver/White but I decided against it and making Filled w/ Eyes more useful. But I'm glad u like the cards!

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2012, 04:13:17 PM »

If any book of the bible can give angels the support they needs to catch up, Revelation can do it. I like the exchange on the elders and living creatures.

Also, are the two witnesses human or angel?

megamanlan · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2012, 05:29:35 PM »

As of now, Human, but they will be Martyrs so they'll be assisting that theme.

Thx!

Master Q · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2012, 11:47:00 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on March 30, 2012, 01:00:28 PM

I am just wondering but why would u want that taken off?

Because right now, 4th creature can discard opponents' artifacts to get access, which is OP.

cookie monster · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2012, 12:16:25 PM »

what is "that" that is taken off?

megamanlan · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2012, 12:26:39 PM »

MasterQ is suggesting removing 'Discard an Aritfact for NT Angels to gain Site Access.' which I may remove the cost for and just have NT Angels have Site Access. Would that be better?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2012, 04:11:38 PM »

Let it Discard an N.T. art and it should be fine.

cookie monster · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2012, 04:48:28 PM »

I think his idea would be better too.

megamanlan · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2012, 11:03:13 PM »

Okay, I'll change it. What would u think of it being an OT Artifact instead?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2012, 11:05:26 PM »

Then it would still be OP. The reason for making it N.T. is that most good artifacts are either O.T. or are used by Speed.

megamanlan · « **Reply #15 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:05:21 AM »

I guess ur right. I'll change it when I get the time.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:08:05 AM »

"Restrict opponent from play cards into his territory from hand or Discard a Site."

That's a card that a lot of decks would have, but could be foregone by some decks in favor of different Dominants.

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:48:59 AM »

Wow! I really, really love this set, especially how you can chain all these angels together. It would be cool if there was a way to recurr a Revalations enhancement, like have The 4th living creature be "discard a NT artifact to recurr a Revationts enhancement" i think would be better. Silver needs speed and recurr, and this strategy has some speed (more would make it a little better, but its has some which is good) so recurr would make it tourny-level easy. Maybe something like a self-capture/remove from the game ability to utilize Heavenly Thrones more (which i LOVE!) like The Destroyer's ability.

megamanlan · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2012, 03:52:39 AM »

Polarius- This is the wrong thread for that. But I want to keep the Fort dropper part, and the 'Shuffle contents' because Discarding a Site isn't a big accomplishment.

Actually, my reprint of Guiding Angel recurs a Revelation Enhancement and puts it under deck. But that's coming later.

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2012, 04:06:00 AM »

would the living creatures/cherubims be considered generic? it doesnt say if they are unique or generic on the cards

megamanlan · « **Reply #20 on:** April 01, 2012, 12:38:41 PM »

They're unique

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2012, 01:52:34 PM »

so then The 24 Elders wouldn't really help the theme much, saying he can't search for any of the living creatures and would only give site access to other angels you would use the help this theme, like attending angel and angel of warning. I kinda like this actually, it reminds of the old-style of playing where we didnt have themes so much and just used whatever character/enhancements we wanted to with no reference to theme. Did you design him with any purpose in mind, like to search out any specific angels? The main ones i can think of to support this theme are attending angel, angel of warning, the destroyer. The big 4 would help this theme, but not necessary fit into it super well however. what other powerful generic angels are there other than attending angel and angel of warning?

megamanlan · « **Reply #22 on:** April 01, 2012, 10:04:17 PM »

It's to work w/ a set of Generic Angels from Revelation that I'm making. Besides it works with Cherubim too.
Also, The Destroyer is not Generic.

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #23 on:** April 01, 2012, 11:58:04 PM »

yea i know, but he removes himself from the game so he works with heavenly thrones

megamanlan · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2012, 12:34:41 AM »

As of right now, Thrones won't get to see the light of day.
It has a -4 right now. (I think)

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Author Topic: Revelation Ideas - Chapter 4 - The Living Creatures and Elders (Read 4415 times)