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"Place in your territory. All special abilities with the words 'cannot be negated' have no effect. Negate all negate abilities on characters."

It can be removed with like 100000000 different cards, but could help create an actual battle phase again.

I'll just run a ton of CBI abilties instead

Right, that's of course a possiblity. But there are a LOT of cards nowadays that you can't do anything to, and this is what this would solve. Everything else has some kind of counter.

Right, thanks.

How about "Protect all cards in battle from all Special Abilities that cannot be Interrupted. Negate character abilities that negate another ability."

Don't want massive TD OP.

How about "Protect all cards in battle from all Special Abilities that cannot be Interrupted. Negate characters that negate another ability."

Don't want massive TD OP.

Would this ability include cards that say quote, "Cannot be negated?" Because that's the main thing that frustrates me with Redemption, if it cannot be interrupted I can prevent it, and if it can't be prevented I can interrupt it. But cannot be negated doesn't really have a counter, except immunity, which then gets negated. 

How about "Protect all cards in battle from all Special Abilities that cannot be Interrupted. Negate characters that negate another ability."

Don't want massive TD OP.

The other thing is, I don't want to negate their whole ability, just the part that negates. So if they attack with Ishmaiah banded in, I don't want him to be negated, just the ability that negates evil character abilities.

Would this stop dominants? They're only technically CBN.
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So now I can play the new dominate: Negater off Angel of the Lord.
No cards that negate target dominents, so that would be impossible.

Seriously, kids, we have "cannot be ignored", "regardless" and "instead" as new abilities.  "May not activate" would trump CBN, protection, immunity, et al.

Quote from: STAMP on August 30, 2011, 04:13:03 PM

Seriously, kids, we have "cannot be ignored", "regardless" and "instead" as new abilities.  "May not activate" would trump CBN, protection, immunity, et al.

Seriously, old man*, I think going back to nothing does anything wouldn't be good for the game.

*I combat fire with fire.

Well, you would at least have a battle phase again.  There just wouldn't be anything going on in the other phases. 

Quote from: STAMP on August 30, 2011, 04:16:36 PM

Well, you would at least have a battle phase again.  There just wouldn't be anything going on in the other phases. 

I'll consider this. Maybe we should make both cards.

Well, part of me was being facetious.  The card is a little over-the-top, but the proposed new ability would be good.  Instead of "until end of game", it could say "for N turns" or something.  And even though no other abilities could activate, any ongoing abilities already in play would be unaffected.  Now that I'm talking it out more I'm really liking that ability:

"May not activate."

Yay, FBTN is back with a vengeance!