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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2010, 02:20:29 PM »
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Yes they are.  Just because they have a resurrected body does not mean that they are not human.  We dont evolve into angels when we die, we continue to be humans.  Angels are  beings that have entirely different purposes from us.

And currently we do not  Have a NT moses or Elijah, we have and OT Moses and/or Elijah that gets banded in by the Transfiguration.

no, they are not. humans are eartly beings. they are obviously not earthly beings.

Ok ..yeah.. ummmm.  I am done with this. 

First of all Scripture clearly states that there is a difference.  You may not agree with that but it doesnt change the fact that there is a difference.  If you insist on arguing dont bother posting until you have a scriptural reference that reffers to a human as becoming an angel in heaven or something like that.

second. EVEN IF YOU COULD...which you cant...The game dynamics of Redemption clearly state that silver brigade is for Angels only...not humans...soo I really dont know why you are making such a big fuss over this..
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2010, 02:28:38 PM »
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The term "human" has become a symbol of weakness, inperfection and mortality ("I'm only human"). But the fact is that God created humans perfect and immortal (as long as they follow God). Moses and Elijah are still humans, but they are dwelling with God.

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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2010, 02:39:58 PM »
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Yes they are.  Just because they have a resurrected body does not mean that they are not human.  We dont evolve into angels when we die, we continue to be humans.  Angels are  beings that have entirely different purposes from us.

And currently we do not  Have a NT moses or Elijah, we have and OT Moses and/or Elijah that gets banded in by the Transfiguration.

no, they are not. humans are eartly beings. they are obviously not earthly beings.

Ok ..yeah.. ummmm.  I am done with this.

funny you mention this as your opening statement. 

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First of all Scripture clearly states that there is a difference.  You may not agree with that but it doesnt change the fact that there is a difference.  If you insist on arguing dont bother posting until you have a scriptural reference that reffers to a human as becoming an angel in heaven or something like that.

what is downright HILARIOUS is that you havent provided a shred of scriptural reference yourself. also, where did i ever say humans become angels? perhaps if you paid more close attention and comprehend what im actually saying instead of assuming, you would understand where i am coming from.

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second. EVEN IF YOU COULD...which you cant...

oh, i didnt realize i was talking to the game designer, who can do anything he well pleases.

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The game dynamics of Redemption clearly state that silver brigade is for Angels only...

show me.

ooooooooooook. soooooooooooooo. yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah.
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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2010, 02:41:48 PM »
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The term "human" has become a symbol of weakness, inperfection and mortality ("I'm only human"). But the fact is that God created humans perfect and immortal (as long as they follow God). Moses and Elijah are still humans, but they are dwelling with God.

a human has always been defined as an earthly being by redemption standards. operative word: earthly. nt moses and elijah do not fit this description.
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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2010, 03:05:34 PM »
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nt moses and elijah do not fit this description. DO NOT EVEN EXIST!!!!!!

There, fixed it for you.  Show me a NT moses Card and or a NT Elijah card and you win the thread.
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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2010, 03:06:31 PM »
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While I'm no Biblical scholar, this passage seems to make a distinction between men and angels.

I Corinthians 6:1-3  If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints?  Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?  And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels?   How much more the things of this life!

A very interesting passage that I was not aware of until now.  Also, note that:

Ephesians 2:6  And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus.

The angels were created to serve God; we sit at his side.  There's a difference. :)


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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2010, 03:36:21 PM »
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nt moses and elijah do not fit this description. DO NOT EVEN EXIST!!!!!!

There, fixed it for you.  Show me a NT moses Card and or a NT Elijah card and you win the thread.

its a hypothetical situation. you cant show me a king cyrus card either, yet that doesnt mean it will not be made. whats your point here?

While I'm no Biblical scholar, this passage seems to make a distinction between men and angels.

I Corinthians 6:1-3  If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints?  Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?  And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels?   How much more the things of this life!

A very interesting passage that I was not aware of until now.  Also, note that:

Ephesians 2:6  And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus.

The angels were created to serve God; we sit at his side.  There's a difference. :)



while appreciated, your quotes still do not provide the character role we will serve when in heaven. we are obviously different beings on earth than we are in heaven.

for further clarification, i am not trying to suggest in the slightest that humans can become angels. i am suggesting silver can also be reserved for spiritual beings, such as the nt moses and elijah. not human, not angels. what better way to denote this than a human brigade coupled with the good spiritual brigade?
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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2010, 03:37:58 PM »
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for further clarification, i am not trying to suggest in the slightest that humans can become angels. i am suggesting silver can also be reserved for spiritual beings, such as the nt moses and elijah. not human, not angels. what better way to denote this than a human brigade coupled with the good spiritual brigade?
In that case, I can't say I disagree with you. :)

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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2010, 06:02:58 PM »
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There's one human who is classified as silver by game rules:



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Re: A Human? Seriously?
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2010, 07:03:32 PM »
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This voc is prothreadative.

 


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