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Both of these seem a little OP. An EC being unignorable and totally undiscardable is just insane. Maybe good discard abilities, and don't make it CBN or something. As for Herd, negating all of opponent's NT abilities includes fortresses, artifacts, Lost Souls, and both good and evil characters, enhancements, and covenants/curses. That's just sickening. Also, if you can ever find a way to protect him from discard, you have a character with endless initiative. I like having a new animal, though.

BB, why do you say unignorable? Did I misread the ability?

No, it's in the identifier, which is even worse.

Worse meaning more powerful, which is bad if the card is already powerful enough or OP.

I still think the first one is fine.

I attempted to balance Herd of Swine.

My thoughts on PoP are, yes he is super-powerful, but Orange has a history of powerful characters. Being protected from Discard and Ignore give Orange more staying power to become a viable mono with no (real) Protection Fort. He will also never get initiative against anyone but Phinehas, and is highly succecptible to Red banding and battle-winners (Baggage, Freedom!), making that Brigade more powerful at the same time. He can also be beat by numbers (perhaps encouraging more regular Negates that aren't Interrupt+Battle-Winner) and Silver offenses (another under-used strategy).

The thing is, Discard and ignore are probably the main two ways that Demons can be affected.

They're also the two most over-used offensive battle-winning strategies.

ow only capture, removal from the game, shuffle, set-aside, and FbtN/immunity bands can really affect him

Oh, short list 

I don't know if you planned this, but it would be literally impossible to defeat this character with a teal deck.

Holy unto the Lord, Jadua band, Silver Trumpets band, don't rely on the most unbalanced Brigade.

Gold, purple, and blue would have an incredibly difficult time as well

Gold always has a hard time with Demons so I think that fits perfectly with the power grid system already in place, plus Moses. Purple has lots of people with big numbers and enough banding. Blue has Trapped in Cleverness, CTB, and Ira.

as would white unless it drew 'He Is Risen' at the right time.

White is OP, and in addition to "He Is Risen," they have a CBN band, high-numbers characters with Blessings, and Musicians for great justice! (Protection of Angels)

There's also the fact that you can deal with him on defense via WaS or take care of him with a side-battle. You can also band to him and then blow up the battle. It seems like your complaint is that he is nearly impossible to beat with the cards everyone and his brother has in every deck currently. I consider that a shining endorsement of the card I have created

As for Herd of Swine, that's a good idea. I think with the other balancing mechanisms I've put into place, making it only Good cards will finish the job (although I did want him to Negate Gifts).