Author Topic: Plains of Meggido (Read 2780 times)

CJSports · « **on:** July 21, 2011, 01:57:20 PM »

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SA: During your discard phase you may place all evil characters and all of your heros in play on this site. On your next discard phase, if you have Grapes of Wrath in hand set it aside to discard all evil characters on this site regardless of protection and return all other cards to owners territory, otherwise return all cards on this site to owners territory. Ability may be used once per game.

Verse: Some prophecy to do with the end of the world that I forget where it is. Probably somewhere in revelation.

Thoughts?

Smokey · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2011, 04:26:33 PM »

So your opponent can't RA or Block for a turn, and then you kill all ECs in play and walk in with TGT for the win. How is this balanced?

CJSports · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2011, 04:57:22 PM »

It's called most of the top decks have all their heros set aside. Fish Boat, Pentacost,ETC. Also they can still block and rescue from hand. Most top decks have speed or small defenses so they won't have much to block with anyways. This also helps slow down speed because they can't make a rescue for a full turn. Also you are in the same pit that they are in.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:07:58 PM »

Actually it'd help speed. A lot. Also you're not in the same pit, because it happens in your Upkeep phase, so you know you're triggering it, and then you can play characters as you merry well please. It's all kinds of overpowered.

CJSports · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:11:14 PM »

I know you can time it really well and now that I think about it it would ruin turtle decks. But I think since this would be a staple in almost every deck both players would get screwed and I have a feeling this would be an end game card by which time most speed decks would've won.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:13:53 PM »

The fact that you JUST said it'd be a staple means it's overpowered. No card that would be a staple should be printed.

Smokey · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:17:12 PM »

Quote from: CJSports on July 21, 2011, 04:57:22 PM

It's called most of the top decks have all their heros set aside. Fish Boat, Pentacost,ETC. Also they can still block and rescue from hand. Most top decks have speed or small defenses so they won't have much to block with anyways. This also helps slow down speed because they can't make a rescue for a full turn. Also you are in the same pit that they are in.

So basically, you're supporting 1 start meta-games by making all other strats not viable.

CJSports · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:18:20 PM »

Quote from: Arch Angel on July 21, 2011, 05:13:53 PM

The fact that you JUST said it'd be a staple means it's overpowered. No card that would be a staple should be printed.

So correct me if I'm wrong you don't think, SoG, CM, NJ, Grapes, Mayhem, AoTL, DoN should've been printed.

I personally say yes to some of those but cards like SoG, CM, AoTL, DoN are what makes the game interesting and personally a end of the world card should be powerful.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:20:58 PM »

You are not wrong. I dislike dominants very much. Some aren't as bad as others (AotL, CM, and Grapes, specifically), but cards like FA and NJ lower the fun and skill level of the game drastically. You should try type ban. It's pretty much 1000 times better than normal games.

CJSports · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:20:58 PM »

Quote from: Smokey on July 21, 2011, 05:17:12 PM

Quote from: CJSports on July 21, 2011, 04:57:22 PM
It's called most of the top decks have all their heros set aside. Fish Boat, Pentacost,ETC. Also they can still block and rescue from hand. Most top decks have speed or small defenses so they won't have much to block with anyways. This also helps slow down speed because they can't make a rescue for a full turn. Also you are in the same pit that they are in.

So basically, you're supporting 1 start meta-games by making all other strats not viable.

I see your point here but remember this is a out of the brain idea that I just threw out there. I'm looking for suggestions on how to make it powerful but not OP'D. I knew this card was OP'D but I always start off with OP'D cards so I can get suggestions to slim it down. Thank you for the thoughts now I'm looking for suggestions.

Smokey · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:31:37 PM »

Quote from: CJSports on July 21, 2011, 05:20:58 PM

Quote from: Smokey on July 21, 2011, 05:17:12 PM
Quote from: CJSports on July 21, 2011, 04:57:22 PM
It's called most of the top decks have all their heros set aside. Fish Boat, Pentacost,ETC. Also they can still block and rescue from hand. Most top decks have speed or small defenses so they won't have much to block with anyways. This also helps slow down speed because they can't make a rescue for a full turn. Also you are in the same pit that they are in.

So basically, you're supporting 1 start meta-games by making all other strats not viable.

I see your point here but remember this is a out of the brain idea that I just threw out there. I'm looking for suggestions on how to make it powerful but not OP'D. I knew this card was OP'D but I always start off with OP'D cards so I can get suggestions to slim it down. Thank you for the thoughts now I'm looking for suggestions.

I don't see how you can balance it without radical changes, at current state it's like a super powered burial shroud. If you made it trigger during discard phase it would be better since then it would be more even in terms of having characters, but this would be the only ability ever to trigger during discard phase.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:33:07 PM »

Quote from: Smokey on July 21, 2011, 05:31:37 PM

... but this would be the only ability ever to trigger during discard phase.

No it wouldn't. See: Storehouse

joeycauldron · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:50:33 PM »

Also, you just have to reveal GoR from your hand, you still have that powerful weapon to play to get another soul as well...

CJSports · « **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2011, 06:42:53 PM »

Quote from: joeycauldron on July 21, 2011, 05:50:33 PM

Also, you just have to reveal GoR from your hand, you still have that powerful weapon to play to get another soul as well...

Biblical. Jesus came and smote all nations of the world.

CJSports · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2011, 06:46:32 PM »

How about now?

Arch Angel · « **Reply #15 on:** July 21, 2011, 06:50:50 PM »

Better, but it's way too long to be printed now.

CJSports · « **Reply #16 on:** July 21, 2011, 07:37:59 PM »

LoL, I'll try to shorten it up.

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 02, 2011, 10:53:29 PM »

I like....
tad OP, but it would be.

JSB23 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 05, 2011, 04:51:15 AM »

Quote from: CJSports on July 21, 2011, 07:37:59 PM

LoL, I'll try to shorten it up.

Not what he meant....

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Author Topic: Plains of Meggido (Read 2780 times)