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It doesn't matter, if he never enters battle his ability won't activate and he can be converted.

Instaposted and agree with everyone else...

On a side note, I doubt they'll worry about there not being 12 'good' disciples if they haven't considered Mathias already.

Thad is op because they made a quick change right before he went to print and didnt have time to playtest it properly. No other biblical or game play reason.

I know how Thaddeus was a real problem but I feel like the new set gave several counters against him (iron pan, Covinent with Death, Tower of Thebez)

And all the old ways to stop him, writ, charms, and CM all add up to make him annoying but manageable.

freaking iron pan kills my deck

FWIW, I can Grail my Judas anytime I want:

Judas Iscariot (Pi)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Crimson • Ability: 6 / 6 • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect this evil character from convert and discard abilities on opponent’s cards while he remains in play. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: NT Male Human, Disciple • Verse: Mark 14:10-11 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Ultra Rare)

Musicians need a serious boost and for the sake of making nicholas of antioch worth his value they should come out with blue deacons and remake that purple deacon aswell. Those two themes need serious help. Demons need more enhancements and herods need better characters too.

I don't agree w/ Blue being exclusive to Genesis, because it already isn't. We already know that there is another theme in Blue anyway (Job theme) and Decons wouldn't take up too much room anyway in Blue Brigade.

I don't agree w/ Blue being exclusive to Genesis, because it already isn't. We already know that there is another theme in Blue anyway (Job theme) and Decons wouldn't take up too much room anyway in Blue Brigade.

Regardless of anyone's personal feelings on the matter (I happen to agree with you), I'm pretty sure that Genesis (and Job) being the only themes in blue is a fact, and unlikely to change. An Elder can correct me if I'm wrong, since I may be, but that's my understanding.

The fact of the matter is a lot of themes need support, and not every theme is going to be gotten to this set. I think the themes that are currently semi-viable but need help (Romans, NT Gold, Canaanites, etc) and themes that need just a couple cards to fill in the gaps (TGT, Disciples, etc) should be focused on this set. Next set, take two themes that are bad or only semi-established (Syrians, Sadducees, Deacons, etc) and give them the same treatment Disciples got last year, only balanced.

Blue does not have a solid theme in NT. There will more than likely be a blue NT theme in the future.

Despite rumors (that may be fact) that Rob doesn't like the idea?

Quote from: Master KChief on April 30, 2012, 03:19:13 PM

Blue does not have a solid theme in NT. There will more than likely be a blue NT theme in the future.

Despite rumors (that may be fact) that Rob doesn't like the idea?

He may not like it but if they pick a new theme and blue is the only brigade they can justify fitting it in I think he'd still go with it.

He may not like it but if they pick a new theme and blue is the only brigade they can justify fitting it in I think he'd still go with it.

Hence the discussion of a brand new theme. I've heard plenty of discussion about a new theme, with several Elders commenting but not confirming anything, and I've heard zero discussion of putting Deacons in blue, at least not in any official capacity. Again, this is all hearsay since I cannot point to any specific instance where an Elder has definitely said that Rob doesn't like the idea, but this is what I've gathered from various comments over the course of the last 6-7 months or so. Ultimately, if Rob says he'd rather introduce a new brigade than put Deacons in blue, then that's what will happen, and again, I'd actually prefer they just put Deacons in blue instead of creating a new brigade.

Since people believe that if disciple are one of the 4 offenses in the starters this year and believe that a Peter, Andrew, John repint will be done I would like to see what people believe the John reprint will be. I have already made a Andrew and Peter reprint with a couple enhancement's made around Fishing Boat.

Any reprints Disciples get this set won't have any complicated abilities. It's entirely possible that John will retain his current special ability and just be given green (and perhaps white, to fit him into TGT) as an additional brigade. They have to be careful here, since if they do change John's ability, it has to be something that is powerful enough to justify using him over the current John (who's spectacular), but not so much that he's overpowered. My guess is John's current ability with new brigades and a "Negate play abilities". Andrew and Peter are the ones that need real special abilities, though I could easily see them both given generic "easy-to-swallow" abilities, with Andrew probably banding to Peter (or doing something else involving Peter) and Peter perhaps even just banding to a Disciple.

Something that people should keep in mind is that the set is a starter deck, so while it's entirely possible to make cards that support a theme overall, they still have to be self-sufficient decks in and of themselves. I doubt there are going to be any cards in there (if a Disciples offense is part of it) that deal directly with Fishing Boat, I doubt any demon defense would directly reference Gates of Hell. Thinking back to the G/H decks, Priscilla bands to Aquila (who is not present in the deck), but is otherwise still a white female hero that can be used for rescues. Apprehended is the only card that can't directly do anything with what you have in the deck (though it can be played on Temple Guard after Love of Money, so it's still usable).

All this talk of Disciples reprints and John/Revelation stuff just made me feel the need to mention this.