Author Topic: New Set Brainstorming (Read 35523 times)

Arrthoa · « **Reply #50 on:** April 28, 2012, 09:51:20 PM »

I say more late August like the last set

Chris · « **Reply #51 on:** April 28, 2012, 09:53:18 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 28, 2012, 09:51:20 PM

I say more late August like the last set

Traditionally, sets get released so that there are packs (or tins, or decks, or whatever) available at Nats, then later on (in early-to-mid September), they get released on the Cactus site.

megamanlan · « **Reply #52 on:** April 29, 2012, 12:25:59 AM »

They'll be revealed at Nats and still unusable for another 3 months and then our stores around here (except Ken) will not get them for another 2 months at least.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #53 on:** April 29, 2012, 12:33:00 AM »

lol aren't we mr negative.

Chris · « **Reply #54 on:** April 29, 2012, 12:33:48 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on April 29, 2012, 12:25:59 AM

They'll be revealed at Nats and still unusable for another 3 months and then our stores around here (except Ken) will not get them for another 2 months at least.

Why exactly will they be "unusable"?

megamanlan · « **Reply #55 on:** April 29, 2012, 02:34:45 AM »

Not being able to be used in an Offical Tournament. At least that is what happened with the last set.

And that's actually how it is here. It's crazy that the Family Christian Bookstores around here still haven't gotten any new tins at all.

Josh · « **Reply #56 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:12:28 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on April 28, 2012, 04:08:28 PM

If you look back to G/H, the defense of each deck is thematically opposed to the offense of the other deck. So you had deacons, disciples and good early church people duking it out with demons, Herods, and bad early Church people; and you had Moses, Aaron, and the exiles from Egypt battling with Pharaoh, his army, and Israelite malcontents.

The new starter deck will follow that pattern fairly well.

If Romans are a defense, then the opposing offense could also be... Wait for it... Deacons? Since everyone has been wanting them to be a theme for a while. Possibly Disciples + Deacons, with more Deacon stuff (since Disciples are established and Deacons would be new).

Also, I predict that the White offense will have boosts for both Musicians and Daniel. I suspect that all offenses/defenses will help 2 themes, like the G/H decks.

Chris · « **Reply #57 on:** April 29, 2012, 02:53:28 PM »

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If Romans are a defense, then the opposing offense could also be... Wait for it... Deacons? Since everyone has been wanting them to be a theme for a while. Possibly Disciples + Deacons, with more Deacon stuff (since Disciples are established and Deacons would be new).

I think it's unlikely to see Deacons introduced in one of the established brigades. The biggest presence they have thus far is in blue, and Rob doesn't want any additional blue themes, since he feels that Genesis is more than large enough to encompass that entire brigade. All of the other brigades are filled with at least two themes, which leaves the possibility of introducing an additional good brigade (many people think it should be "tan," but they can be ignored, since everyone knows a new brigade will be magenta). One of the Elders (I believe RDT) has stated that no new brigade will be introduced in the upcoming set, which makes it unlikely that deacons will be introduced this set as a full-fledged theme. I think we're going to get some Disciple help (Andrew, Peter, and John reprints, maybe a handful of new enhancements), some NT Gold help (Judges got a lot of help last year and don't really need it this year; NT gold needs a lot of help this year, or it won't get used outside of being splash), and perhaps a card or two for TGT.

megamanlan · « **Reply #58 on:** April 29, 2012, 04:06:03 PM »

I don't think that Blue should only be for Genesis. I'd love to see the Deacon theme as that. Also, I want to see a Martyr theme as Red (Martyrs would be excluding the Disciples, and have a lot of Generics)

Chris · « **Reply #59 on:** April 29, 2012, 04:22:13 PM »

Having an "Early Church" theme with separate identifiers for Martyrs and Deacons is more likely than having Martyrs and Deacons as separate themes I think. Plus, I happen to agree that having Deacons in blue would be fine, but I've heard several times that that is unlikely to happen.

megamanlan · « **Reply #60 on:** April 29, 2012, 06:06:51 PM »

I have heard this too, but I don't agree with making a new brigade. It just makes it that the new brigade can't use any older cards. Besides, I don't think there should be an Early Church theme with its own Brigade. It would be better to just spread them out into the various brigades. I'd rather see a reprint of Ananias though.
I think Deacons should have their own theme as NT Blue, and Martyrs should be the NT Red brigade.

Chris · « **Reply #61 on:** April 29, 2012, 06:11:50 PM »

We already have a developing NT red brigade. While having Martyrs as red would be cool for symbolic reasons, I dislike the thought of having deacons and martyrs as different brigades, since there's so much overlap there. Look at the way that NT gold works: it focuses on two specific groups (Luke and John) that have a lot of overlap. Some cards target both groups, some target one or the other. I see no reason not to set up an "Early Church" theme with different groups like deacons, martyrs, etc, and just put the theme in blue.

Jmbeers · « **Reply #62 on:** April 29, 2012, 06:18:32 PM »

You could have a good NT Gentiles theme, I mean we've already got the Centurions to build off of.

Chris · « **Reply #63 on:** April 29, 2012, 06:25:28 PM »

Quote from: Jmbeers on April 29, 2012, 06:18:32 PM

You could have a good NT Gentiles theme, I mean we've already got the Centurions to build off of.

I've always felt that one of the big themes of the New Testament was that gentiles are adopted into God's family, becoming "honorary Jews," and thus, able to be saved through Christ. I think that actually making it a point to separate gentiles from Jews in Redemption, while not quite sacrilege, goes against that very important point.

Jmbeers · « **Reply #64 on:** April 29, 2012, 06:35:13 PM »

I can see your feelings there but I actually feel pretty much compleatly different than you. I feel like a Gentiles them can help be a great passive teaching tool. (Which is the true heart of the game) We arn't separating them to single them out but celebrating there acceptance into the family. I feel like having them as Heros gives us a chance to show people that they were accepted and more than that, extreamly effective at spreading the good news.

megamanlan · « **Reply #65 on:** April 29, 2012, 07:00:17 PM »

Personally, I'd kinda disagree with having the Martyrs being Blue for more then just symbolism, because we can easily get an overwhelming theme from Martyrs alone vs. I wouldnt mind putting the Deacons like w/ the Disciples or Luke/John theme because they are so small and then make most of them Dual brigades (like Stephen) to crossover to the Martyrs as well.

I'd be fine w/ it of both Martyrs and Deacons were small themes and couldn't really get bigger, but Martyrs inherently can get very big quickly (I'm doing a Revelation set and I already have about 10-12 Heroes in there alone) I'd say they deserve to an Individual Brigade for themselves.

As to having a NT Good Gentile theme, I wouldn't really agree to that either. I'd rather see them help other themes (like maybe a Paul theme. Just a thought) not a theme for themselves.

Chris · « **Reply #66 on:** April 29, 2012, 07:17:09 PM »

The big problem is most of the martyrs in the NT who don't already easily fall into an additional category aren't really known for anything other than being martyrs, which means we probably don't know much about them, which means we're pretty much pulling the ability from nowhere, which is a bad route, and leads to inconsistencies like Thaddeus having one of the best abilities in the game, while Peter is only usable because other cards mention him. While Thaddeus was necessary to complete the Disciples theme, I think taking a bunch of characters that are little more than just names in the Bible, when there are so many full-fledged stories yet to be covered, is a waste of time. I see no reason to have at least two more NT themes that could easily be combined when we already have three fully established, with a lot of overlap between them. Taking every prominent Biblical character (like Paul for instance) and turning it into its own theme is redundant and pointless in my opinion.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #67 on:** April 29, 2012, 08:51:30 PM »

Quote from: Chris on April 29, 2012, 02:53:28 PM

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If Romans are a defense, then the opposing offense could also be... Wait for it... Deacons? Since everyone has been wanting them to be a theme for a while. Possibly Disciples + Deacons, with more Deacon stuff (since Disciples are established and Deacons would be new).

I think we're going to get some Disciple help (Andrew, Peter, and John reprints, maybe a handful of new enhancements), some NT Gold help (Judges got a lot of help last year and don't really need it this year; NT gold needs a lot of help this year, or it won't get used outside of being splash), and perhaps a card or two for TGT.

They may also do a reprint of Matthais ( the disciple that replaced Judas) as a purple hero. Just my opinion on that though

Red Wing · « **Reply #68 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:18:25 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 29, 2012, 08:51:30 PM

Quote from: Chris on April 29, 2012, 02:53:28 PM
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If Romans are a defense, then the opposing offense could also be... Wait for it... Deacons? Since everyone has been wanting them to be a theme for a while. Possibly Disciples + Deacons, with more Deacon stuff (since Disciples are established and Deacons would be new).

I think we're going to get some Disciple help (Andrew, Peter, and John reprints, maybe a handful of new enhancements), some NT Gold help (Judges got a lot of help last year and don't really need it this year; NT gold needs a lot of help this year, or it won't get used outside of being splash), and perhaps a card or two for TGT.
They may also do a reprint of Matthais ( the disciple that replaced Judas) as a purple hero. Just my opinion on that though

Matthais isn't considered a Disciple in Redemption.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #69 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:35:42 PM »

He should be though then we would have 12 of them that are heroes

Red Wing · « **Reply #70 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:46:00 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 29, 2012, 09:35:42 PM

He should be though then we would have 12 of them that are heroes

Just Grail Judas…

Arrthoa · « **Reply #71 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:50:31 PM »

You can't he is protected while he remains in play and is CBN

Wings of Music · « **Reply #72 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:55:46 PM »

Not if you Grail him before he goes into battle...

Jmbeers · « **Reply #73 on:** April 29, 2012, 10:01:44 PM »

Or you just use the old Judas who has no ability at all.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #74 on:** April 29, 2012, 10:02:21 PM »

Judas Iscariot (Pi)
Type: Evil Char. Brigade: Crimson Ability: 6 / 6 Class: None Special Ability: Protect this evil character from convert and discard abilities on opponents cards while he remains in play. Cannot be negated. Identifiers: NT Male Human, Disciple Verse: Mark 14:10-11 Availability: Priests booster packs (Ultra Rare)

So he is protected from Grail cause his ability works while in territory as well

Also we could be expect a reprint of Prophets of Baal and Samaria soon thanks to the reprint of Ahab and Jezabel

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