Author Topic: New Set Brainstorming (Read 35487 times)

browarod · « **on:** April 28, 2012, 02:41:42 PM »

I didn't want to hijack Gabe's thread with anymore about this, lol.

Quote from: Gabe on April 28, 2012, 01:53:07 PM

The next Redemption release by Cactus Games will be a starter deck.

That starter deck will contain each of the brigades that were not used on a card in the 2011 release.

The Dominants used and character counts will not be exactly the same as we've used in the past starters.

One old Dominant is probably going to receive a new ability.

If nothing changes between now and the final draft, there are 19 enhancements and 19 characters being reprinted into the appropriate brigade for their theme, most with new abilities.

Good brigades:
White (Musicians, perhaps?)
?

Evil brigades:
Orange
Gray - Romans

There have been rumors that SoG will be the old Dominant with a new ability, perhaps negating Souls before rescuing?

Given the brigades above, any thoughts on the 19 characters and 19 enhancements being reprinted?

Drrek · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2012, 02:45:29 PM »

Teal was in last year's set, since Zeke is half teal.

browarod · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2012, 02:49:00 PM »

So both starters are white then? Because I can't think of any other good brigades that weren't in 2011.

Blue, Green, Teal, Silver, Gold, Red, Purple were all there, that only leaves White.

Chris · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2012, 02:54:19 PM »

It's only now that I realize I should have trademarked the overzealous soccer mom idea, so I could charge a quarter to everyone who mentions it.

At any rate, I believe we're finally going to see a David reprint. I don't think Gabe would have made that topic at all (keeping in mind that that topic had posts from Bryon, who never posts in this forum) unless the Elders were actively figuring out what the community wants in a David card, since there's a lot of debate about that. I also have it on good faith that both Peter and Andrew are receiving reprints, though it's been a while since I heard that, so it might have changed since then.

Quote from: browarod on April 28, 2012, 02:49:00 PM

So both starters are white then? Because I can't think of any other good brigades that weren't in 2011.

Blue, Green, Teal, Silver, Gold, Red, Purple were all there, that only leaves White.

He didn't exclusively say they'd be white, just that they would definitely have some white in them. Starter decks are never mono brigade, nor do they have an exclusive focus on any one brigade.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2012, 02:58:45 PM »

I hope Peter and Bro get reprinted so my disciple deck can get a boost. Guess I'll have to wait another year for the remaining Sons of Jacob to be printed.

Chris · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:00:12 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on March 17, 2012, 10:33:31 AM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 17, 2012, 10:21:45 AM
Now we have 2 trolls.

Out of 20 votes, really? Is 10% of the forum really trolls?

If some knew something about what the future holds they might be inclined to include certain dominants that would otherwise make them troll like.

Either Doubt or Glory of the Lord is going to get a reprint to make it a worthwhile seventh dom. A Mighty Blow

Jmbeers · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:03:17 PM »

cold see some of the forgotten cards like NT blue, more teal, and hopefully Romans

I've heard it could be SoG with a way to get around NT, /4*, 1st round, and Human only lost soul

Chris · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:05:24 PM »

Quote from: Jmbeers on April 28, 2012, 03:03:17 PM

cold see some of the forgotten cards like NT blue, more teal, and hopefully Romans

I've heard it could be SoG with a way to get around NT, /4*, 1st round, and Human only lost soul

I can't recall if it's been 100% confirmed yet, but yeah, there's been a lot of talk, even from the Elders, of a "Negate and Rescue a Lost Soul" SoG.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:06:47 PM »

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/1st-article-up-at-cactus-site/msg342165/#msg342165

I'm also predicting a John reprint and a Thaddeus reprint.

Okay, maybe not Thad.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:08:24 PM »

I really really hope that Teal gets some Solomon's Temple/Tabernacle stuff. That's been a long time coming.

Chris · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:08:56 PM »

Why does John need a reprint? He's still one of the best Disciples, even without TGT support. If anything, James need a reprint.

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:10:34 PM »

What of grey? Do we get more Syrians?

Arrthoa · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:11:07 PM »

John's bro does need a reprint but keep the band ability on him

Drrek · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:12:46 PM »

Quote from: Asahel24601 on April 28, 2012, 03:10:34 PM

What of grey? Do we get more Syrians?

I assume its either Syrians or Emperors, both need a good bit of help.

Chris · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:15:37 PM »

Quote from: Arrthoa on April 28, 2012, 03:11:07 PM

John's bro does need a reprint but keep the band ability on him

That's a tricky thing to do. John is one of the better heroes in the entire game right now, and especially within Disciples. I agree that James should maintain the band ability, but even just making it CBN might be overpowered.

Quote from: Drrek on April 28, 2012, 03:12:46 PM

Quote from: Asahel24601 on April 28, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
What of grey? Do we get more Syrians?

I assume its either Syrians or Emperors, both need a good bit of help.

I suspect Syrians over Emperors. I vaguely recall hearing something from Nats about the possibility of strong Syrian support in the upcoming set. Also, it makes more sense to have all the cards in a starter deck be from the Bible, instead of outside sources (as reliable as they may be).

browarod · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:19:54 PM »

Rumor mill chugs along:
A source of mine that shall not be named has it on good authority that the Gray will be Romans.

Also, I misunderstood Gabe's post and assumed that meant the brigades not in 2011 were the only brigades to be in the deck when, in fact, he did not say such. So, does anyone have any ideas as to what the other good brigade(s) featured will be?

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:23:45 PM »

Quote from: browarod on April 28, 2012, 03:19:54 PM

Rumor mill chugs along:
A source of mine that shall not be named has it on good authority that the Gray will be Romans.

Aw... They need less of a boost. Didn't they have like 4 tins?

Chris · « **Reply #17 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:29:43 PM »

The number of tins they had is irrelevant, since it simply depends on how effective the theme is. The playtesters may have decided that Romans were easier to use as anti-meta material, especially since they go so well with Herods.

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:33:35 PM »

Ah...

Arrthoa · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:34:14 PM »

Plus there are plenty of Romans besides emperors

Chris · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:35:32 PM »

Just to make sure it's understood, that's not at all an official statement; it's just hearsay and a possible explanation for why they may have decided on Romans over Syrians for this set.

Master KChief · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:38:58 PM »

Or, a NT defense to match the speculated Disciples offense?

Chris · « **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:42:01 PM »

Romans are pretty well-established to be a bad match with Disciples. Romans Destroy Jerusalem and Crown of Thorns both rip apart the opposite alignment, and they're pretty strong for their respective themes. I'd be surprised if the new Romans were introduced with the intention of having synergy between Disciples/Gardensciples/TGT and Romans.

Redoubter · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:49:12 PM »

Quote from: Chris on April 28, 2012, 03:42:01 PM

Romans are pretty well-established to be a bad match with Disciples. Romans Destroy Jerusalem and Crown of Thorns both rip apart the opposite alignment, and they're pretty strong for their respective themes. I'd be surprised if the new Romans were introduced with the intention of having synergy between Disciples/Gardensciples/TGT and Romans.

At least with the last set though, didn't they have NT offense paired with OT defense and the other set OT offense paired with NT defense? If they did that again, it would actually make things interesting.

megamanlan · « **Reply #24 on:** April 28, 2012, 03:50:45 PM »

I'm Definately thinking Demons and Teal. I'd much rather have Romans then Syrians in the Deck. There are at least 3 NT Emperors (actually from the Bible) requiring a useful reprint. And it doesn't have to be just Emperors. There are plenty of Romans that could be put in there too.
I wonder if they may put some Gold or Silver in too.

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