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I've had this idea for a while, but i wanted to wait until the Antediluvians were revealed Feedback welcome!

really dig it man.. i've had this idea for a while too. i think your ability is better than the one i came up with.

mine was..

generic male demon/giant 8/10 orange/black. you may draw 2 or band to a philistine. cannot be interrupted.

i think yours makes more sense

I like the ability, except I believe the last line reflects a popular but incorrect interpretation. Having the Nephilim part orange and looking non-human would probably lead people to believe in the view that they were demons (fallen angels), which is a view which for many reasons I believe is incorrect. Here's an excellent scholarly article by Answers in Genesis which explains this with great detail of Scriptural support and logical analysis: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/who-were-the-nephilim/

I like the ability, except I believe the last line reflects a popular but incorrect interpretation. Having the Nephilim part orange and looking non-human would probably lead people to believe in the view that they were demons (fallen angels), which is a view which for many reasons I believe is incorrect. Here's an excellent scholarly article by Answers in Genesis which explains this with great detail of Scriptural support and logical analysis: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/who-were-the-nephilim/

I made it part orange, but human to show represent the part about the sons of God chasing after the children of men, and the nephilim were the offspring. They are not demons.

While the female hate makes sense, idk if so much of the card should be devoted to it when there are way cooler things about the Nephilim.

What did you have in mind? I'm really curious, because I would love to see this as an actual card!

I've wanted to see a Nephilim character in the game for about 10 years now. They are a very interesting part of Genesis 6. My understanding of who they are has certainly grown in the past 10 years.

When we were making the evil antediluvians I thought Nephilim's inclusion was going to be automatic. But there were two reasons we didn't print him this year.

1) Upon doing further research into who people believe the Nephilim to be I've found that there are at least 3 different theories, 2 of them being popular and at odds. While I believe it's important for churches and individuals to take a theological stance on controversial issues, as a game that we want to be marketable to the broadest number of people possible, it's best not to take a strong theological stance where there is controversy, because it could potentially alienate part of the customer base. Is it possible to create a Nephilim card that walks the line and doesn't represent either side strongly? Maybe. I wouldn't rule out the possibility some day.

2) There were hours spent searching for a decent quality, free piece of art but nothing was found.

For now the Nephilim will have to live vicariously through cool player created cards like those made by Isaac and others. Which reminds me, there are at least 3 cards in the new set that were inspired by player created cards which haven't been previewed yet!

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...make that 2

I've wanted to see a Nephilim character in the game for about 10 years now. They are a very interesting part of Genesis 6. My understanding of who they are has certainly grown in the past 10 years.

When we were making the evil antediluvians I thought Nephilim's inclusion was going to be automatic. But there were two reasons we didn't print him this year.

1) Upon doing further research into who people believe the Nephilim to be I've found that there are at least 3 different theories, 2 of them being popular and at odds. While I believe it's important for churches and individuals to take a theological stance on controversial issues, as a game that we want to be marketable to the broadest number of people possible, it's best not to take a strong theological stance where there is controversy, because it could potentially alienate part of the customer base. Is it possible to create a Nephilim card that walks the line and doesn't represent either side strongly? Maybe. I wouldn't rule out the possibility some day.

2) There were hours spent searching for a decent quality, free piece of art but nothing was found.

For now the Nephilim will have to live vicariously through cool player created cards like those made by Isaac and others. Which reminds me, there are at least 3 cards in the new set that were inspired by player created cards which haven't been previewed yet!

Spoiler (hover to show)

...make that 2

may i ask who designed this card, or gave the designer the idea?

I think you'll see something familiar here:

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/new-card-ideas/the-mask(s)/

Neat.

I didn't expect to see it so soon.