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Title: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: ag4hosea on August 09, 2016, 04:31:09 PM
I once had an idea that there could be a card that is a  Lost Soul and an evil Character. However, Master Q beat me to the gates in coming up with one (which was an awesome idea by the way). Inspired by that, I came up with my own:

Lost Soul/ Multi-brigade 0/4 Evil Character  (dubbed Reckless or Revenge, not sure which one yet)

If your last blocker is removed from battle by an opponent's special ability, add this Lost Soul to the battle and prevent opponent's next enhancement. The winner of the battle rescues this lost soul. Cannot be prevented by a good card.   

I gave it the 'You Will Remain' treatment. However, I don't have a suitable Bible verse to go with this card idea, it's just from the top of my tired little head  ;D

Also, how do you add links to other threads on the boards, I really want to add the link to Master Q's card creations that included the Lost Soul/Evil character. They really are awesome ideas.
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: Ironisaac on August 09, 2016, 05:07:51 PM
I once had an idea that there could be a card that is a  Lost Soul and an evil Character. However, Master Q beat me to the gates in coming up with one (which was an awesome idea by the way). Inspired by that, I came up with my own:

Lost Soul/ Multi-brigade 0/4 Evil Character  (dubbed Reckless or Revenge, not sure which one yet)

If your last blocker is removed from battle by an opponent's special ability, add this Lost Soul to the battle and prevent opponent's next enhancement. The winner of the battle rescues this lost soul. Cannot be prevented by a good card.   

I gave it the 'You Will Remain' treatment. However, I don't have a suitable Bible verse to go with this card idea, it's just from the top of my tired little head  ;D

Also, how do you add links to other threads on the boards, I really want to add the link to Master Q's card creations that included the Lost Soul/Evil character. They really are awesome ideas.

Woah! rescuing a soul on defense... thats really cool, but i feel that there is no scripture in the bible to support that. if it was just the hero that could rescue it if the lost soul is beaten, then that would be ok, and if the lost soul won, it would just go back to your territory as a generic, genderless human. Cool idea!
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: ag4hosea on August 10, 2016, 05:11:50 AM
I once had an idea that there could be a card that is a  Lost Soul and an evil Character. However, Master Q beat me to the gates in coming up with one (which was an awesome idea by the way). Inspired by that, I came up with my own:

Lost Soul/ Multi-brigade 0/4 Evil Character  (dubbed Reckless or Revenge, not sure which one yet)

If your last blocker is removed from battle by an opponent's special ability, add this Lost Soul to the battle and prevent opponent's next enhancement. The winner of the battle rescues this lost soul. Cannot be prevented by a good card.   

I gave it the 'You Will Remain' treatment. However, I don't have a suitable Bible verse to go with this card idea, it's just from the top of my tired little head  ;D

Also, how do you add links to other threads on the boards, I really want to add the link to Master Q's card creations that included the Lost Soul/Evil character. They really are awesome ideas.

Woah! rescuing a soul on defense... thats really cool, but i feel that there is no scripture in the bible to support that. if it was just the hero that could rescue it if the lost soul is beaten, then that would be ok, and if the lost soul won, it would just go back to your territory as a generic, genderless human. Cool idea!

I agree, I doN't think there would be any supporting scripture for soul rescue on defense. Your idea is quite good, I do like it. But I also wonder if this would be okay:

"If your last blocker is removed from battle by an opponent's special ability, you may add this Lost Soul to the battle and prevent opponent's next enhancement. If rescue attempt succeeds, attacker rescues this soul. If block is successful, transfer this Lost Soul to opponent's Land of Bondage. Cannot be prevented by a good card."

Maybe it would be worded a little different, but I think that would be a good idea. Not only would it give you a definite soul to rescue next turn if this soul successfully blocks for you, but there are dangers to this as well. If you remove your opponents' last blocker in your rescue attempt via special ability, then your opponent can add this Lost Soul to the battle, and that would not be good (for you at least).


Also, if it happens that your last evil character is removed from the battle via special ability, the way that it is worded now means you have no choice but to add this soul to the battle. So if you don't have any evil enhancements to play on him, your opponent will most likely get a free soul. However, he is CBP against good cards, so Moses can't prevent his ability from working! (though I suppose he could interrupt it somehow?).

What do you think about this idea?
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: Ironisaac on August 10, 2016, 08:09:51 AM
I think I like this a lot more! This is just my experience, but most of the time I'll have a battle winner that I didn't play the last battle, so the no enhancements thing wouldn't be a big problem for me. Although, I do tend to run very defense heavy decks :D
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: ag4hosea on August 10, 2016, 11:04:28 AM
Okay, so I made the card. Here it is:

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fo56e6e.jpg&hash=543d34cf0f25ae4983759a2956ed97d3ae2fabac)

I have decided to dub this soul "Revenge" to fit the verse.

I had to play around a lot with the wording of the ability because it was just so long, in the end I had to make it so it was just cbp, and put a clarifying clause in the identifier because of the length, which is annoying. What do you think?
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: kariusvega on August 10, 2016, 11:24:34 AM
it's a great idea, but i think it would need to have the same identifier as hopper, and not count as a lost soul toward deck building purposes.
needs to be cbn.
i think multicolor is a bit op, should have 1 brigade chosen when it enters battle or something, but be multibrigade for deck building purposes so you could only have 1

it's a great idea! i would consider it in decks as a hopper sub.
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: ag4hosea on August 10, 2016, 11:27:34 AM
it's a great idea, but i think it would need to have the same identifier as hopper, and not count as a lost soul toward deck building purposes.
needs to be cbn.
i think multicolor is a bit op, should have 1 brigade chosen when it enters battle or something, but be multibrigade for deck building purposes so you could only have 1

it's a great idea! i would consider it in decks as a hopper sub.

Those are really good suggestions. I will get onto the editing now!
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: ag4hosea on August 10, 2016, 12:10:59 PM
Wow, so many words but here is what v2 looks like so far:

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F1609anm.jpg&hash=022057e058b61b237741f090d6ee828331b44b7b)

I wish there weren't as many words, but it seemed necessary. Any suggestions on improving the succinctness of the wording? Thoughts on the card in general?
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: Ironisaac on August 10, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
Wow, so many words but here is what v2 looks like so far:

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F1609anm.jpg&hash=022057e058b61b237741f090d6ee828331b44b7b)

I wish there weren't as many words, but it seemed necessary. Any suggestions on improving the succinctness of the wording? Thoughts on the card in general?

And the award for longest identifier ever goes to... That lost soul!  ;D

But seriously, I feel like it could just say "evil character my only use enhancements of one brigade" that should clear up some more room.
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: ag4hosea on August 10, 2016, 12:29:48 PM
Wow, so many words but here is what v2 looks like so far:

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi67.tinypic.com%2F1609anm.jpg&hash=022057e058b61b237741f090d6ee828331b44b7b)

I wish there weren't as many words, but it seemed necessary. Any suggestions on improving the succinctness of the wording? Thoughts on the card in general?

And the award for longest identifier ever goes to... That lost soul!  ;D

But seriously, I feel like it could just say "evil character my only use enhancements of one brigade" that should clear up some more room.

I was trying to avoid a possible problem that may or may not exist where that wording (which was my initial go to) would cut out enhancements that are multi-colour, as it does technically read as 'one brigade'. But, if that is not a problem that actually exists then we will go with your alternative   :rollin:
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: pilgrim14 on August 10, 2016, 01:34:05 PM
It could say: when this evil character enters battle, Chose an evil brigade: convert this card to that brigade.
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: ag4hosea on August 10, 2016, 01:55:06 PM
It could say: when this evil character enters battle, Chose an evil brigade: convert this card to that brigade.

Yes, now that is good wording! That's so much better. Thanks
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: KingLeo on August 10, 2016, 03:16:39 PM
I feel that it does a little to much as well haha. a bit over powered.
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 10, 2016, 11:01:54 PM
The second sentence can be "if defeated" rather than "if the rescue succeeds" to save a wee bit of space and more accurately reflect what should happen if Eternal Inheritance is played.
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: Kevinthedude on August 10, 2016, 11:27:15 PM
I made one with my attempt at wording its transformation into an EC based loosely on Doubt.

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7LOLdH7.jpg&hash=758f5adffbd50cf6b84d0b09ee62cb62ebbd4681)
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 10, 2016, 11:29:22 PM
Make it "a" instead of "your" to add extra fun in multi categories!
Title: Re: Lost Soul Idea
Post by: ag4hosea on August 11, 2016, 01:19:43 AM
I made one with my attempt at wording its transformation into an EC based loosely on Doubt.

(https://www.cactusforums.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7LOLdH7.jpg&hash=758f5adffbd50cf6b84d0b09ee62cb62ebbd4681)

Hey, hey, hey I like that version a lot better. Much crisper wording! So much clearer.
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