Author Topic: Leviathan (Read 5660 times)

hi123 · « **on:** December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM »

12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.

SA; ~~Immune to Disciples~~. Immune to lone heros. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion. Cannot be Interrupted.

Nameless · « **Reply #1 on:** December 24, 2011, 09:14:55 AM »

He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.

hi123 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 24, 2011, 09:19:36 AM »

Quote from: Nameless on December 24, 2011, 09:14:55 AM

He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.

I thought about making him half orange, but he isnt realy a demon. ;Maybe -you may discard a card from hand to negate a fortress for one turn, - ?

drb1200 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 24, 2011, 10:44:04 AM »

Quote from: Nameless on December 24, 2011, 09:14:55 AM

He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.

Leviathan is not a demon.

Quote from: hi123 on December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM

12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.

SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.

Why immune to disciples?

cookie monster · « **Reply #4 on:** December 24, 2011, 11:06:39 AM »

I think they should make a behemoth card to

Josh · « **Reply #5 on:** December 24, 2011, 11:13:32 AM »

Quote from: hi123 on December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM

12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.

SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.

Why immune to Disciples? Because they had a Fishing Boat? Also, you should be required to show Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil.

Quote from: Nameless on December 24, 2011, 09:14:55 AM

He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.

Please show me Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil, much less a demon. He is one of the creatures God created, and he (if he really is an animal) is amoral. You can't have an amoral entity be evil.

Quote from: cookie monster on December 24, 2011, 11:06:39 AM

I think they should make a behemoth card to

As long as it is not evil, unless sufficient Biblical evidence is presented that it should be. IMHO, Leviathan and Behemoth make as much sense being evil characters as Great White Shark would.

cookie monster · « **Reply #6 on:** December 24, 2011, 11:15:23 AM »

Leviathan and Behemoth could be evil and good

megamanlan · « **Reply #7 on:** December 25, 2011, 05:08:49 AM »

Quote from: jmhartz on December 24, 2011, 11:13:32 AM

Quote from: hi123 on December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM
12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.

SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.

Why immune to Disciples? Because they had a Fishing Boat? Also, you should be required to show Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil.

Quote from: Nameless on December 24, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.

Please show me Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil, much less a demon. He is one of the creatures God created, and he (if he really is an animal) is amoral. You can't have an amoral entity be evil.

Quote from: cookie monster on December 24, 2011, 11:06:39 AM
I think they should make a behemoth card to

As long as it is not evil, unless sufficient Biblical evidence is presented that it should be. IMHO, Leviathan and Behemoth make as much sense being evil characters as Great White Shark would.

Wait, why would Behemoth be good? The curse inherently makes animals evil and an EC doesn't have to be truly evil, it just has to get in the way of a person rescuing a LS and that usually is most of what animals like that do, not to mention hurt/kill people.

cookie monster · « **Reply #8 on:** December 25, 2011, 11:15:01 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on December 25, 2011, 05:08:49 AM

Quote from: jmhartz on December 24, 2011, 11:13:32 AM
Quote from: hi123 on December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM
12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.

SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.

Why immune to Disciples? Because they had a Fishing Boat? Also, you should be required to show Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil.

Quote from: Nameless on December 24, 2011, 09:14:55 AM
He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.

Please show me Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil, much less a demon. He is one of the creatures God created, and he (if he really is an animal) is amoral. You can't have an amoral entity be evil.

Quote from: cookie monster on December 24, 2011, 11:06:39 AM
I think they should make a behemoth card to

As long as it is not evil, unless sufficient Biblical evidence is presented that it should be. IMHO, Leviathan and Behemoth make as much sense being evil characters as Great White Shark would.

Wait, why would Behemoth be good? The curse inherently makes animals evil and an EC doesn't have to be truly evil, it just has to get in the way of a person rescuing a LS and that usually is most of what animals like that do, not to mention hurt/kill people.

You'r right, They should be Evil in redemption Because they don't save people, the Behemoth and liviathon would have killed or stolen, they would not save people.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #9 on:** December 25, 2011, 12:02:09 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on December 25, 2011, 05:08:49 AM

Wait, why would Behemoth be good? The curse inherently makes animals evil and an EC doesn't have to be truly evil, it just has to get in the way of a person rescuing a LS and that usually is most of what animals like that do, not to mention hurt/kill people.

Nobody is saying that animals are good. They're amoral due to them not having souls. The curse certainly doesn't make them evil.

Animals can also help bring someone to belief. They're a glorious creation of God and point to Him. All animals do that. Clearly, they shouldn't be good nor evil.

Asahel24601 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 25, 2011, 03:04:03 PM »

They were pointed out to bring Job to redemption and stop him from challenging God
I can't decide what that makes them, but just my

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #11 on:** December 25, 2011, 04:18:13 PM »

ah, this brings back the memories of the thread of the "neutral" monsters...

lp670sv · « **Reply #12 on:** December 25, 2011, 04:36:47 PM »

Arguing over a card being printed as evil that has already been printed as evil has got to be in my top 5 most pointless things seen on this site.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #13 on:** December 25, 2011, 06:19:19 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on December 25, 2011, 12:02:09 PM

Quote from: megamanlan on December 25, 2011, 05:08:49 AM
Wait, why would Behemoth be good? The curse inherently makes animals evil and an EC doesn't have to be truly evil, it just has to get in the way of a person rescuing a LS and that usually is most of what animals like that do, not to mention hurt/kill people.
Nobody is saying that animals are good. They're amoral due to them not having souls. The curse certainly doesn't make them evil.

Animals can also help bring someone to belief. They're a glorious creation of God and point to Him. All animals do that. Clearly, they shouldn't be good nor evil.

Someone should have told Rob that years ago. Leviathan's evil, and a nice help against Spiritual Warfare/3 Nails.

hi123 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 27, 2011, 10:35:23 AM »

Quote from: jmhartz on December 24, 2011, 11:13:32 AM

Quote from: hi123 on December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM
12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.

SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.

Why immune to Disciples? Because they had a Fishing Boat? Also, you should be required to show Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil.

Leviathin is immune to disciples simpily becasue they are fishers. In the book of Job, Fishers could not even get Leviathin on a fishing line. But I am changing him so he can be immune to lone heros. It makes more sense.

cookie monster · « **Reply #15 on:** December 27, 2011, 06:28:41 PM »

That is a good idea.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #16 on:** December 27, 2011, 06:50:56 PM »

Quote from: hi123 on December 27, 2011, 10:35:23 AM

Leviathan is immune to disciples simply because they are fishers.

Not all of the disciples were fishers...

Quote from: SomeKittens on December 25, 2011, 06:19:19 PM

Someone should have told Rob that years ago. Leviathan's evil, and a nice help against Spiritual Warfare/3 Nails.

Someone should have told Rob to have good wording years ago. Oh well, let's keep those bad ideas with the reprint. Good logic is good.

hi123 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 27, 2011, 09:01:33 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on December 27, 2011, 06:50:56 PM

Quote from: hi123 on December 27, 2011, 10:35:23 AM
Leviathan is immune to disciples simply because they are fishers.

Not all of the disciples were fishers...

[/quote]Which is now why he is immune to lone heros, not just disciples.

I am Knot a Blonde! · « **Reply #18 on:** December 28, 2011, 04:40:13 PM »

They were "fishers of men" O.o

cookie monster · « **Reply #19 on:** December 29, 2011, 05:39:38 PM »

Quote from: I am Knot a Blonde! on December 28, 2011, 04:40:13 PM

They were "fishers of men" O.o

That would be a good point. But you are not on water when you "Fish for men".

hi123 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 29, 2011, 06:46:56 PM »

Quote from: cookie monster on December 29, 2011, 05:39:38 PM

Quote from: I am Knot a Blonde! on December 28, 2011, 04:40:13 PM
They were "fishers of men" O.o

That would be a good point. But you are not on water when you "Fish for men".

you could be

Red Wing · « **Reply #21 on:** December 29, 2011, 08:21:11 PM »

Quote from: hi123 on December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM

12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.

SA; ~~Immune to Disciples~~. Immune to lone heros. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.

I like it. Maybe make it CBI because negate-able immune abilities aren't that good.

hi123 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 29, 2011, 08:38:05 PM »

Quote from: Red Wing on December 29, 2011, 08:21:11 PM

Quote from: hi123 on December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM
12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.

SA; ~~Immune to Disciples~~. Immune to lone heros. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.
I like it. Maybe make it CBI because negate-able immune abilities aren't that good.

Good idea, Leviathan looks good now, not to powerful but still stopable

Red Wing · « **Reply #23 on:** December 29, 2011, 10:45:03 PM »

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2011, 01:51:38 AM »

Multicolor 12/12 character protected from shuffle and conversion, has immunity, and is CBI? Goliath and King Manny are merely pawns in comparison.

SWS still wins though, since the utter brokenness of this card would translate to him.

OP card is OP. Art is pretty cool though.

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Author Topic: Leviathan (Read 5660 times)

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