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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => New Card Ideas => Topic started by: hi123 on December 24, 2011, 09:13:09 AM
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12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.
SA; Immune to Disciples. Immune to lone heros. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion. Cannot be Interrupted.
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He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.
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He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.
I thought about making him half orange, but he isnt realy a demon. ;Maybe -you may discard a card from hand to negate a fortress for one turn, - ?
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He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.
Leviathan is not a demon.
12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.
SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.
Why immune to disciples?
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I think they should make a behemoth card to ::)
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12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.
SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.
Why immune to Disciples? Because they had a Fishing Boat? Also, you should be required to show Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil.
He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.
Please show me Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil, much less a demon. He is one of the creatures God created, and he (if he really is an animal) is amoral. You can't have an amoral entity be evil.
I think they should make a behemoth card to ::)
As long as it is not evil, unless sufficient Biblical evidence is presented that it should be. IMHO, Leviathan and Behemoth make as much sense being evil characters as Great White Shark would.
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Leviathan and Behemoth could be evil and good ;D
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12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.
SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.
Why immune to Disciples? Because they had a Fishing Boat? Also, you should be required to show Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil.
He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.
Please show me Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil, much less a demon. He is one of the creatures God created, and he (if he really is an animal) is amoral. You can't have an amoral entity be evil.
I think they should make a behemoth card to ::)
As long as it is not evil, unless sufficient Biblical evidence is presented that it should be. IMHO, Leviathan and Behemoth make as much sense being evil characters as Great White Shark would.
Wait, why would Behemoth be good? The curse inherently makes animals evil and an EC doesn't have to be truly evil, it just has to get in the way of a person rescuing a LS and that usually is most of what animals like that do, not to mention hurt/kill people.
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12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.
SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.
Why immune to Disciples? Because they had a Fishing Boat? Also, you should be required to show Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil.
He should be half orange, and maybe something about discarding a fort.
Please show me Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil, much less a demon. He is one of the creatures God created, and he (if he really is an animal) is amoral. You can't have an amoral entity be evil.
I think they should make a behemoth card to ::)
As long as it is not evil, unless sufficient Biblical evidence is presented that it should be. IMHO, Leviathan and Behemoth make as much sense being evil characters as Great White Shark would.
Wait, why would Behemoth be good? The curse inherently makes animals evil and an EC doesn't have to be truly evil, it just has to get in the way of a person rescuing a LS and that usually is most of what animals like that do, not to mention hurt/kill people.
+1 You'r right, They should be Evil in redemption Because they don't save people, the Behemoth and liviathon would have killed or stolen, they would not save people.
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Wait, why would Behemoth be good? The curse inherently makes animals evil and an EC doesn't have to be truly evil, it just has to get in the way of a person rescuing a LS and that usually is most of what animals like that do, not to mention hurt/kill people.
Nobody is saying that animals are good. They're amoral due to them not having souls. The curse certainly doesn't make them evil.
Animals can also help bring someone to belief. They're a glorious creation of God and point to Him. All animals do that. Clearly, they shouldn't be good nor evil.
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They were pointed out to bring Job to redemption and stop him from challenging God
I can't decide what that makes them, but just my :2cents:
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ah, this brings back the memories of the thread of the "neutral" monsters...
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Arguing over a card being printed as evil that has already been printed as evil has got to be in my top 5 most pointless things seen on this site.
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Wait, why would Behemoth be good? The curse inherently makes animals evil and an EC doesn't have to be truly evil, it just has to get in the way of a person rescuing a LS and that usually is most of what animals like that do, not to mention hurt/kill people.
Nobody is saying that animals are good. They're amoral due to them not having souls. The curse certainly doesn't make them evil.
Animals can also help bring someone to belief. They're a glorious creation of God and point to Him. All animals do that. Clearly, they shouldn't be good nor evil.
Someone should have told Rob that years ago. Leviathan's evil, and a nice help against Spiritual Warfare/3 Nails.
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12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.
SA;Immune to Disciples. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.
Why immune to Disciples? Because they had a Fishing Boat? Also, you should be required to show Biblical evidence that Leviathan should be evil.
Leviathin is immune to disciples simpily becasue they are fishers. In the book of Job, Fishers could not even get Leviathin on a fishing line. But I am changing him so he can be immune to lone heros. It makes more sense.
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That is a good idea.
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Leviathan is immune to disciples simply because they are fishers.
Not all of the disciples were fishers...
Someone should have told Rob that years ago. Leviathan's evil, and a nice help against Spiritual Warfare/3 Nails.
Someone should have told Rob to have good wording years ago. Oh well, let's keep those bad ideas with the reprint. Good logic is good.
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Leviathan is immune to disciples simply because they are fishers.
Not all of the disciples were fishers...
[/quote]Which is now why he is immune to lone heros, not just disciples.
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They were "fishers of men" O.o
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They were "fishers of men" O.o
That would be a good point. But you are not on water when you "Fish for men".
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They were "fishers of men" O.o
That would be a good point. But you are not on water when you "Fish for men".
you could be ::)
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12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.
SA; Immune to Disciples. Immune to lone heros. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.
I like it. Maybe make it CBI because negate-able immune abilities aren't that good.
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12/12 Crimson/Brown EC.
SA; Immune to Disciples. Immune to lone heros. Protected from capture, shuffle and conversion.
I like it. Maybe make it CBI because negate-able immune abilities aren't that good.
Good idea, Leviathan looks good now, not to powerful but still stopable ;)
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Multicolor 12/12 character protected from shuffle and conversion, has immunity, and is CBI? Goliath and King Manny are merely pawns in comparison.
SWS still wins though, since the utter brokenness of this card would translate to him.
OP card is OP. Art is pretty cool though.
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Multicolor 12/12 character protected from shuffle and conversion, has immunity, and is CBI? Goliath and King Manny are merely pawns in comparison.
SWS still wins though, since the utter brokenness of this card would translate to him.
OP card is OP. Art is pretty cool though.
I dont think making him multicolored is OP'd. He dosent have initiative. AOTL could just discard him.
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Multicolor 12/12 character protected from shuffle and conversion, has immunity, and is CBI? Goliath and King Manny are merely pawns in comparison.
SWS still wins though, since the utter brokenness of this card would translate to him.
OP card is OP. Art is pretty cool though.
I dont think making him multicolored is OP'd. He dosent have initiative. AOTL could just discard him.
yeah I just made him multi because Redemption Connect doesn't have a dual brigade feature.
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Sword of the Lord
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Green • Ability: 2 / 1 • Class: None • Special Ability: Discard Leviathan or cause any two Evil Characters in play to fight each other. • Play As: Discard Leviathan or cause any two Evil Characters in play to fight each other in a side battle. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon • Verse: Judges 7:18 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Uncommon)
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Sword of the Lord
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Green • Ability: 2 / 1 • Class: None • Special Ability: Discard Leviathan or cause any two Evil Characters in play to fight each other. • Play As: Discard Leviathan or cause any two Evil Characters in play to fight each other in a side battle. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon • Verse: Judges 7:18 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Uncommon)
Yeah I guess you could discard him with that too. I think if this Leviathin were made, he wouldnt be used a lot in type 1 but more in type 2.
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If it's only dual brigade, T2 players can have two of it. The major letdown is that it doesn't fit into a theme...
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If it's only dual brigade, T2 players can have two of it. The major letdown is that it doesn't fit into a theme...
I have realy wanted to make an animal theme. Probably brown brigade. Is this a Good Idea? The problem is I dont know what themed enhancements they should have.
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Animals don't save/stop the saving of souls. If they're brown brigade, you'd need to find a sufficient amount of animals that somehow interfered with God's work.
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Animals don't save/stop the saving of souls. If they're brown brigade, you'd need to find a sufficient amount of animals that somehow interfered with God's work.
+1 I Do think that animals could be used as a side though.