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Goliath: Return all Heroes in battle to territory (except giant slayers). Opponent may present a new Hero. Negate all band, draw, and play abilities. Cannot be negated.

This will force the opponents hero's out of battle and prevent them from playing an enhancement. CBN

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Goliath's Sword: restrict opponents from banding and presenting new attackers and blockers (except giant slayers). Negate enhancements depicting weapons (except this one).

That's where red wins. Giant slayers and Negate weapons

I agree with pol on this one. Sword is cool and fun to play but Presence is limited to play on CBN Hero's which it's too many. I think the card is nice though and I love cards that try to bring in cards that don't see play.

Solomon's Temple is way OP.  The idea of holding any number of arts is what make it sooo over the top.  If it only held one it would probably be fine, but even then, the play first makes me think that it would still be OP.
 

I wouldn't ever use presence in T1 maybe T2 but even that's a maybe.

I would change it to hold X artifacts.  With X equaling the number of Solomon's temple priests in play.  Then I would remove the play first.  After that I think it's golden.

If that's the case, Solomon will usually draw more than 3 every time (X is also the # of cards he draws). I figured it would limit the drawing a bit if X is the arts in the temple, since there aren't many usuable ones. I will consider removing the play first...

True there are a lot of so-so abilities, but if cactus reprints Solomon's temple they are probably going to reprint Solomon's temple priests to go with them.  As long as a couple priests with good abilities are printed along with the temple it will help make them playable, particularly if they cause Solomon's temple to mix with purple.

I think the 21/21 band is fine, the protection is easily stopped by a lot of things that can happen out of battle,  Writ, Charms, CM, or DoN (to nail book of the law).  Plus the protection is easily gotten around by anyone with horses.  Additionally this band won't work until late game because it requires so many cards to set it up. 

Anyway this is off topic if we're going to discuss this we had probably better move to the thread in the link above.

That's better. Considering the only good Temple arts are LotS and HoH, you'd need to eat up some card slots to get a bigger draw than 2, the discard searching isn't too bad, and it's still quite good because it lets you look at opponent's hand and then choose what to attack with.

Listen to this guy I like how he thinks.  Seriously though I think that would be the perfect adjustment to make

+ 1 to you BubbleBoy

This version seems a tad UP to me.

No it's not UP, it's just not OP.  It's a good balance.  Drawing searching and holding two arts is pretty darned good if you ask me.  It's just slightly below OP and that's right where it ought to be.

I like the current interaction Solomon has with his temple. He looks at the hand (wisdom), he draws (wealth) and you exchange with a Solomon's Temple priest (Temple caretakers). Basically, Solomon sets up the Temple, like he does in the Bible, and lets the Priests do things afterwards.

But more people than just Solomon involved themselves with God's temple.  Later on guys like Josiah and Hez did good things for it.  I think it should apply to all good Kings of Judah (which would be way OP), or limit it to Solomon's temple priests like BB suggested.

 

If you think that version of ST is UP, how about supplementing it with a new Glory of the Lord:

That might be a bit much; I didn't want to remake Glory, just get the current one to be used.

No it's not UP, it's just not OP.  It's a good balance.  Drawing searching and holding two arts is pretty darned good if you ask me.  It's just slightly below OP and that's right where it ought to be.

It's alright, but I want it to be so good that people would consider making decks around it. That just doesn't do it for me

But more people than just Solomon involved themselves with God's temple.  Later on guys like Josiah and Hez did good things for it.

That is true, but if you ask average people, chances are the majority has heard of Solomon and the minority can name someone like King Joash. The idea would be to have a purple/teal theme that encourages the use of otherwise useless heroes like King Jehoshaphat, or combo heroes, like Jehoram the Priest.

EDIT - Added some Priest reprints - EDIT

I like the priests, on Azariah do you mean Increase your hand size (meaning draw) or hand limit?

It's supposed to be increasing the amount of cards you can keep in your hand during your turn (16) and at the end of turn (usually 8 ) by X. Limit is a much better word.

EDIT - Fixed Azariah to work as intended - EDIT

Definitely don't like Azariah. He helps speed too much. Also, what happens if he is discarded from territory while you have 17 cards in hand?

Solomon's Temple and Azariah have been changed.

Yeah, you know, I do like the idea of being able to have as many Temple arts up at a time as you want, but isn't it a little much to have Ark, Lampstand, Laver, Trumpets, and Holy of Holies all active at the same time for no extra cost? I just feel like it could really easily get out of hand, especially as more Temple artifacts get printed. I would at least say, like, "No more than X active," so that at very least you couldn't use ST in a non-ST deck.